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Teacher attacked, students may be charged with hate crime
Fox ^ | 3/1/06

Posted on 03/02/2006 1:15:48 PM PST by iPod Shuffle

Teacher attacked, students may be charged with hate crime

Last Update: 3/1/2006 10:20:53 PM

A substitute teacher at a local school says he was beaten by students and called dirty names. Now, authorities say whoever is behind the beat-down could face hate crime charges.

Carlton Miller says the gash over his right eye and broken glasses are a result of being beaten and heckled by students at Grand Park Career Center. Miller says he was leaving the school premises when five students jumped him.

Miller believes an exchange he had with a student earlier in the day may have prompted the attack.

“[One of the students] told me ‘Shut up’, and ‘You going to get your [expletive] kicked after school. So I think that's what triggered it,” he says.

But it's what the attackers allegedly said before the assault that could make the charges more serious. Police reports show Miller, who says he’s not gay, was called "gay substitute” and other derogatory terms for gay men.

The State Attorney's Office says if this is a justified hate crime, those who would normally be charged with misdemeanor battery may now face felony charges and possible jail time.

Miller wishes the school, which is a disciplinary school for those who have been in trouble before, had surveillance cameras to show who exactly was throwing the punches. But he claims he has a good idea who did it and plans to work with the school to figure out who is responsible.

It will ultimately be the State Attorney's office that will decide if there's enough evidence to pursue this as a hate crime.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: hatecrimes; privilegedclass; protectedclass; teens
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1 posted on 03/02/2006 1:15:53 PM PST by iPod Shuffle
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To: iPod Shuffle

heckled by students at Grand Park Career Center

We're obviously talking about the cream of the academic crop here..


2 posted on 03/02/2006 1:17:20 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Islam is a religion of peace and they'll behead 13 year old girls to prove it...)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

heckling = a beat down?


3 posted on 03/02/2006 1:20:18 PM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: iPod Shuffle
“ One of the students told me ‘Shut up’, and ‘You going to get your [expletive] kicked after school. So I think that's what triggered it,” he says.

Shouldn't the teacher have corrected the student? "Son, it's not 'you' going to get your [expletive] kicked. It's 'you're' going to get your [expletive kicked.'"

4 posted on 03/02/2006 1:20:37 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: iPod Shuffle

This story is just so gay...


5 posted on 03/02/2006 1:21:19 PM PST by Kenton
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To: sausageseller

heckled = teased, taunted..i.e., liberal students at (insert liberal university here) heckled Ann Coulter last night


6 posted on 03/02/2006 1:22:06 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Islam is a religion of peace and they'll behead 13 year old girls to prove it...)
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To: iPod Shuffle

Hate crimes are ridiculous, any crime committed against another individual is hate and driven by it. Why do we have harsher sentencing and guidelines if someone just happens to gay or a person of color? Hate is hate, pure and simple.


7 posted on 03/02/2006 1:22:31 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: iPod Shuffle

Next time I get the tar beat out of me I will have to remember to say he called me Gay and Queer to the cop, tag him with a felony on my word only...</s>


8 posted on 03/02/2006 1:22:32 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: iPod Shuffle

Hate crime is so stupid. The guy was attacked, that is the crime....not that they said mean things while doing it.


9 posted on 03/02/2006 1:23:26 PM PST by Feiny ( "Why don't we go up to the old people's home and wax the steps? " ~ Barney Fife)
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To: feinswinesuksass

Ridiculous isn't it. If I was putting the beat down on someone but was complimenting them or telling them how much I liked them while doing it would it be any less of a crime?


10 posted on 03/02/2006 1:26:11 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: iPod Shuffle

They don't list the age group he was teaching so I'm picturing this as a class of second graders.


11 posted on 03/02/2006 1:27:57 PM PST by ZGuy (Graduate of the Jack Bauer School of Driving)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
"Ridiculous isn't it. If I was putting the beat down on someone but was complimenting them or telling them how much I liked them while doing it would it be any less of a crime? "

Well...My dad told me when he was spanking me that it was for my own good and it hurt him more than it did me, so I guess you can look at it that way.

12 posted on 03/02/2006 1:29:30 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: iPod Shuffle
Miller wishes the school, which is a disciplinary school for those who have been in trouble before, had surveillance cameras to show who exactly was throwing the punches.

Bet they will after this.

13 posted on 03/02/2006 1:29:37 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: iPod Shuffle

You've gotta be kidding me. In my high school, "gay", "queer", etc. were all just synonyms for "stupid" or "lame." It was obvious that people that were called "queers" weren't, but they were still called that.

Now this guy thinks that since they were calling him stupid and lame, he can get away with calling it a hate crime. What a queer.


14 posted on 03/02/2006 1:30:39 PM PST by Archangel86
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To: iPod Shuffle
How about making the punishment for students beating up a teacher serious enough so that worrying about why they did it is irrelevant? In my opinion, the real response to these beatings driven by hatred is that the punishment for battery clearly isn't harsh enough if people are willing to do it for stupid reasons like that and perhaps the penalty should be increased, across the board. This idea came to be after listening to Bush's response about hate crime legislation and the James Byrd, Jr. murder in Texas. He pointed out that those responsible for the horrible crime were getting the death penalty. If the punishment is already severe enough, then hate crime charges become superfluous. In fact, I think the law should punish any crime against strangers or relative strangers more severely because if you are unstable enough to beat stranger for kicks, you are a menace to innocent people.
15 posted on 03/02/2006 1:30:53 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

I completely agree. Who made up this "hate crime" bullcrap anyway? A crime is a crime and should be punished accordingly.


16 posted on 03/02/2006 1:31:21 PM PST by derllak
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

He was not gay...he was of the metrosexual wing of the Democrat party. What is wrong with these kids today?


17 posted on 03/02/2006 1:32:17 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: iPod Shuffle

This guy is GAY and he is also a LIAR....he probably deserved to get the tar kicked outta him


18 posted on 03/02/2006 1:32:37 PM PST by PETEPARSLEY ("WHATEVER" is a coward's way of saying F U)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
"Miller wishes the school, which is a disciplinary school for those who have been in trouble before, had surveillance cameras to show who exactly was throwing the punches. But he claims he has a good idea who did it and plans to work with the school to figure out who is responsible."

The teacher obviously has no illusions about the inmates, er students of the Grand Park Detention um Career Center.

This fine institution is located near the intersection of 18th St, W and Penton in the Grand Park neighborhood. Jacksonvillians might have some detailed views on the area which appears to have been built as middle/lower middle class housing in the 1920s time frame. Grand Park Detention Center was, I suspect, once upon a time Grand Park High School.
19 posted on 03/02/2006 1:34:37 PM PST by robowombat
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To: sausageseller

Can you get a "gash over his right eye" just from heckling a guy?

This just goes to show that you should keep your mouth shut during a beat down so that can't get you for a "hate" crime!


20 posted on 03/02/2006 1:34:53 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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