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Govt. Eyes Error That Cost U.S. Billions
AP via Yahoo News ^ | March 2, 2006 | H. JOSEF HEBERT

Posted on 03/02/2006 11:29:07 AM PST by soccer_maniac

WASHINGTON - How it happened or who's responsible is a mystery eight years after the fact. But what may have been a simple error — or perhaps something more ominous — has given a multimillion-dollar windfall to a group of oil and gas companies and could cost the government billions of dollars more in the years to come.

The Interior Department disclosed Wednesday that a provision was mysteriously deleted from hundreds of federal drilling leases in the late 1990s that would have required producers to pay royalties, once prices reached a certain level, on oil or gas taken from deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clintons; corruption; derschlickmiester; interior; inthelate1990s; mms; oil; oilscam
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To: kenavi
Oil drillers must have to make up-front payments for drilling rights. The absence of the royalty threshold would have made the leasing contracts more valuable, thus increasing the up-front price that drillers would be willing to pay. As long as there was competition for drilling rights, the gov't should have gotten paid up-front for the market value of the contingent payment it was relinquishing, compared to previous years' contracts.

All true, but recall that the IEA had crashed the price with their report, and oil was far cheaper than spring water by the gallon at the grocery store. (Ten cents per gallon for sour crude, under 15 cents for sweet, depending on the source.)

So maybe they left it out on purpose just so they could sell leases, or they would have really looked bad.

Otherwise, they were busy taking land off of the minerals exploration rolls (Escalante Staircase National Monument comes to mind, and the gold mine three valleys over from Yellowstone.)

81 posted on 03/03/2006 12:34:23 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Thanks for the info! Be interesting to see if this goes anywhere. It's just the taxpayers' money after all. Grrrrr....


82 posted on 03/03/2006 3:32:54 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Smokin' Joe
So maybe they left it out on purpose just so they could sell leases, or they would have really looked bad.

Sounds like an intelligent supposition. It's the lack of transparency and rationality that rankles, that's why it is natural for people to assume a sinister conspiracy, when it is more likely the myopia of gov't bureacrats pursuing the President's pet idea du jour.
83 posted on 03/03/2006 7:34:40 AM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: mewzilla

Indeed...


84 posted on 03/03/2006 10:02:12 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Wolfie
Whew! I'm glad this happended under Clinton, or Freepers wouldn't care.

LOL. It's funny, isn't it?
85 posted on 03/03/2006 10:06:05 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Wolfie
Whew! I'm glad this happended under Clinton, or Freepers wouldn't care.

I don't care... besides the Republicans were in control of Congress, so they are most likely at fault.

86 posted on 03/03/2006 10:10:07 AM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Ouderkirk

Hmmm. A wee bit too freudian.


87 posted on 03/03/2006 10:14:52 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: backhoe

Have you seen this?


88 posted on 03/04/2006 4:36:39 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
Another thread on the subject...

Official: Feds made clerical error. Lawmakers want probe into '98 change in energy leases

89 posted on 03/04/2006 4:39:55 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

No, I hadn't-- thanks for calling my attention to it. I'll see if I can puzzle it out.


90 posted on 03/04/2006 4:50:07 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: backhoe

'98. The year Toon was impeached. Interesting timing.


91 posted on 03/04/2006 4:59:21 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: MamaTexan
when will the pubs grow a pair and DO something about it?

You are joking, right?

92 posted on 03/04/2006 5:06:32 AM PST by Hardastarboard (HEY - Billy Joe! You ARE an American Idiot!)
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To: Hardastarboard
You are joking, right?

No. Just wishfully thinking.

:-)

93 posted on 03/04/2006 5:14:43 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a 'legal entity', nor am I a *person* as created by law.)
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To: soccer_maniac

bttt


94 posted on 03/04/2006 5:14:49 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Howlin
"It is clear that there is no record telling people to take the language out,"

Has anybody checked Sandy Berger's socks for the missing docs?

95 posted on 03/04/2006 5:30:29 AM PST by chief_bigfoot ("isn't THAT amazing?" - Ron Popiel)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I agree, windfall profit taxes should be illegal. The oil companies pay enough in taxes as it is, not to mention the billions they pay to comply with envirowacco regulations.
I'm surprised so many here are so liberal on this.


96 posted on 03/04/2006 5:55:25 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Defiant

"Here's an idea: agree to restore the royalties, retroactively, or we double them going forward, or when it comes time for renewal, whichever is earlier."

Oh yeah, raise the taxes on those EEVIL oil companies that way your gas prices will be so much cheaper! Give me a break.


97 posted on 03/04/2006 6:01:33 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial
Oh yeah, raise the taxes on those EEVIL oil companies that way your gas prices will be so much cheaper! Give me a break.

Where did I suggest that we raise taxes on oil companies? Or that they are evil? Windfall profits taxes are counterproductive.

What I do suggest is that a party deriving income from natural resources on another's land should pay a royalty to the landowner. It seems that was the intent here, however, someone's screwup let the royalty agreement expire. The landowner, in this case the government, ought to get paid the royalties that were intended, and if they can't legally demand them retroactively, they should change the terms going forward in order to make up for this mistake. Why should private parties be able to take the resources that belong to all of us without adequate compensation?

98 posted on 03/04/2006 7:51:33 AM PST by Defiant (DhUmmitude: A fear of Bush spying and of offending Islamic fanatics.)
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To: marty60

"Clinton found a way"....You recall the "tucking Away" of low sulphur coal by him in our western states?....You recall who owns BIG same kind coal over in the far east......RIADY....million dollar donor they said to Klintoon's early campaign..Yep, Ol' Slick pays his debts!


99 posted on 03/04/2006 7:59:41 AM PST by litehaus
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To: Defiant

"The landowner, in this case the government, ought to get paid the royalties that were intended, and if they can't legally demand them retroactively, they should change the terms going forward in order to make up for this mistake. Why should private parties be able to take the resources that belong to all of us without adequate compensation?"

These leases do have costs which the oil companies pay up front. What these royalties are is a windfall profit tax on the product if the price exceeds a certain amount.~ $35.00/barrel


100 posted on 03/04/2006 8:03:39 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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