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To: 1rudeboy

I spoke to the bias at the magazine, not to how or to whom the cars should be marketed.


120 posted on 03/03/2006 6:42:45 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon

There is a wave of asian car snobbery going on for years. Snobbery is pure emotion and will not listen to a rational arguements. Case in point the marketly higher ratings for Mazda over the same vehicle badged as a Ford. That can only happen if the sampleing methodology is fundamentally flawed.

Next the methodology of defects per hundred is totally uslesss and misleading. No weight is given to the seriousness of a defect. It can be a blown transmission or a screw loose in a cupholder. Furthermore....

A defect can be in the mind of the beholder, 95% of people are stupid about cars, cant change a flat tire stupid, and this idiotic magazine takes their amateur reports as gospel. Now they will test a toaster in controlled condition for 20,000 slices of bread till it craps out, but for a car they take surveys from idiot snobs and call it scientific research. If someone is so gawdam stupid about cars that they need to be told what to buy in a magazine, they are too stupid to make fill out surveys objectively.

Case in point. On oddesey blogs, there is a rash of bad transmission reports, (this is supposed to be a highly rated vehicle?) These oddy owners are making apologies for freekin honda that the trannys are failing.... go figure... because they tell themselves they buy japanese because they are reliable, so this strikes at the very core of their egos that the car breaks down. Pure idiocy, and thats why this nation is in trouble on all fronts. Here is some oddy talk right from a forum"

08-03-2002, 02:26 PM
Anyone out there have a code P0740 come up on their transmission? I did last week. Honda says bad transmission and it'll only cost me $5100 clams to get it fixed!
Having been a auto mechanic myself for many years - I smell a rat. Anybody else have this problem?

Rich

orunner
05-30-2003, 08:19 PM
aperantly they still can't fix the trans's I replace a trans in 2002 on a oo ody and it came in on tuesday in which I replaced it again. After going for a test drive guess what, I ordered another trans and replaced it today on friday , took that for a test drive and it seems to shift like shit but I ain't changing it again.
BullShifter
05-30-2003, 11:09 PM
i had a '00 Ody that went through 3 trans in the 1 week it was in for service, then on the way home it started acting up again. HAHA that sux. Ended using 5 trans & the guy traded it in after that.
Mahyar
10-04-2003, 10:39 AM
Few days ago we had to take our 01 Odyssey to the Honda dealer to replace the transmission for the third time. Like clockwork every 15000 to 20000 miles this car needs a new transmission. Is there anything we all can do to eliminate this annoying problem forever."

We got the car back couple of days ago, but yesterday we faced the same problem of leaky transmission fluid and it came to complete halt. We had to tow it to the dealer. Is it possible that they never changed the transmission?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Mahyar







i had a '00 Ody that went through 3 trans in the 1 week it was in for service, then on the way home it started acting up again. HAHA that sux. Ended using 5 trans & the guy traded it in after that.
BullShifter
10-04-2003, 02:03 PM
Hopefully the dealer will get it right for you. Like I said before it wasn't uncommon to replace the trans's a few time before the problems was fixed.

If your paper says they repalced it, then they HAD to replace - American Honda looks at every warranty - trans claims mostly! Call American Honda & raise some stink

Hows this for reliability you asain snobs??? HA!!



122 posted on 03/03/2006 8:31:14 AM PST by brainstem223
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