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"Here is what rankles Americans, and what should rankle the administration: We are being asked to not only trust our ports to be partially run by the UAE, but we are additionally being asked to support a multibillion-dollar arrangement that supports an authoritarian regime. The message of the Bush doctrine has been blurred. We have been led in this war by the great call to and for freedom in other countries — "the urgent requirement of our nation's security, and the calling of our time," as the president put it in his powerful Second Inaugural. This calling applies to nowhere else as direct as it does to the Middle East."
1 posted on 03/01/2006 1:20:59 PM PST by STARWISE
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The Dubai Ports World deal can’t work.

Wanna bet, Bill?

2 posted on 03/01/2006 1:22:16 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
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To: STARWISE

This isn't about control of ports, just terminals.


3 posted on 03/01/2006 1:22:25 PM PST by steelcurtain
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Confused again BTTT .. he's hardly a flamethrower.


4 posted on 03/01/2006 1:23:07 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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there is no way this deal is killed


6 posted on 03/01/2006 1:25:03 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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By William J. Bennett & Seth Leibsohn

Copy-and-paste is our friend.

8 posted on 03/01/2006 1:25:41 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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Go back to what you know, Bill.


9 posted on 03/01/2006 1:26:35 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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There is a difference between Great Britain and the UAE, many differences in fact, and we should not be instructed otherwise.

We heard moralizing to the contrary, on this very board, yesterday. We were told essentially that anyone who makes such a distinction must be a racist, Bush-bashing, non-conservative. That conlcusion is brought to us by the same mentality that said opposition to the Harriet Miers nomination must be sexist.

12 posted on 03/01/2006 1:30:23 PM PST by mikeus_maximus
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No matter how many assurances we are given that our government will remain in charge of this security, the cargo will be managed and coordinated by a foreign-owned company whose country has anything but a strong record in preventing terrorism.

Kinda like the UK, that owns these businesses now?

Actually, I think having the UAE run it will concentrate our efforts to keep things secure, which they aren't now. At the same time, it gives motivation to the UAE to help us shut down terrorism worldwide, lest they lose their business.

In the end, I don't think it matters who writes the paychecks of the longshoremans union. If terrorists want to sneak in stuff, they will, probably over the Canadian border that we aren't watching at all.

14 posted on 03/01/2006 1:34:19 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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But we ask the UAE to trust us with an Aircraft Carrier in their ports?


18 posted on 03/01/2006 1:41:09 PM PST by rightinthemiddle ("Hindsight is not wisdom, and second guessing is not a strategy.")
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One question I have for ALL the naysayers like Bennett, Ingraham, Sean etc etc..........WHO will operate the TERMINALS if NOT DPW?

GB's business in NOW OWNED by DPW and the ONLY other nations capable of doing this kind of work is Singapore, and China?

19 posted on 03/01/2006 1:44:10 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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ping


20 posted on 03/01/2006 1:44:33 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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Bennett is a wind bag and a self promoter. I hope this deal goes down the toilet, it should, but why do we need any foreign country's companies to handle these ports? Are there no American companys who can handle this? Are we all that inept?

Further there are 21 ports involved in this from Portland Maine to Corpus Christy, also a number of ports in Vancouver BC. Haven't heard Bennet mention that. This story was well on line before he or Brit, for that matter, latched onto it. Were they waiting for a signal?

Bush sure doesn't take security that seriously. Open borders and Arab Port "Authorities".


21 posted on 03/01/2006 1:45:28 PM PST by Bret
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The USA should not gamble away its security.


25 posted on 03/01/2006 1:48:52 PM PST by iPod Shuffle
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My question relates to the terminals. If the deal falls through will these terminals shut down? If not who will run them? If so, what will happen to all the workers?


26 posted on 03/01/2006 1:52:04 PM PST by sinbad17
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The Debate On The Ports Deal(Risk Factor: British Company Management About The Same As The UAE)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1587394/posts
STRATFOR (Subscription) ^ | 02/28/06 17:35:30 | George Friedman
http://www.stratfor.com/



"Some argue it's easier for al Qaeda to enter the US. We find that doubtful. Al Qaeda operatives -the real ones not the wannabes-if out there, could enter by any number of means. If they try to slip a bomb into a container ship, it won't be one sent from a Muslim country -there the scrutiny level is too high. It would be under a flag no one would suspect, like Denmark. Given what it means to "operate a port," the risk to the US from having a British company manage its ports is about the same as from the UAE: Has anyone noticed holding a British passport these days is no guarantee of loyalty to Western ideals?"


29 posted on 03/01/2006 1:55:28 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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And Bill Bennett is right. This port deal should be scrapped. It's a matter of national security.

It's a no-brainer.


31 posted on 03/01/2006 1:57:18 PM PST by Bookmark
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Bill Bennett drinks the Kool Aid.

Hey Bill, you know Sheik Makhtoum is a great Craps player. Maybe you can join him for a game!

36 posted on 03/01/2006 2:05:34 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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Sorry Dr B, stick to virtue you obviously know nothing about Logistics or Security. Sorry you have an irrational fear of a company in UAE buying the company that managed 9 out of 300 Port Terminals in 6 of our Ports. It's called Capitalism, learn to live with it. Sorry you are so unwilling to actually learn the facts of how our Ports, Shipping Security or Logistics work.

What rankles is the rabid ignorance and shrill arrogance of the Port Deal Critics. They simply REFUSE to listen to the facts. Even THIS piece is full of factual inaccuracies and out right misstatements. It show a complete and utter refusal to actually LEARN the facts.

This has been going on for two weeks now, there is no excuse for this level of factual ignorance of the part of people of Dr Bennet's intellectual caliber.

38 posted on 03/01/2006 2:36:31 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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"The message of the Bush doctrine has been blurred."

He told us the State of the Union address that we are addicted to oil and we are supporting terrorism when buying it. That sounded pretty clear.


53 posted on 03/01/2006 3:02:05 PM PST by e_castillo
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To: RegulatorCountry
I am sorry you have such an irrational paranoia about Foreigners. I am sorry you are so rabidly unwilling to learn how Shipping, Ports and Security work. Just because YOU are afraid of Muslims does NOT mean the deal is bad. Your personal feelings are irrelevant.

The level of fundamental ignorance on display here is inexcusable. There are NO security implications of this deal. Port Ownership and Security remain wholly in the hands of the US Local, State and Federal Agencies. The Company from UAE is buying the company that operates 9, out of 300, terminals in 6 ports. Despite the repeated Lies by the Long Shoreman's Unions bought and paid for talking heads, the Port Terminal Company has NO special access to US Security info.

Security and police groups do NOT share info on means and methods with anyone. The MORE people who know security info, the LESS secure it is. They go to great lengths to keep that info classified. People running the terminals have NO need to know that info. That info is NOT going to be shared with the hundreds of people who operate the 300 Terminals. People who make this statement are knowingly lying. This has been one of the really maddening thing. The people who go out and make statements that they KNOW are not true. This mindset "well I am lying but it is ok because I mean well" is childish.

It is hard to decide which is more appalling in this matter. The arrogant unwillingness to learn fact one about the Deal by the Deal Hysterics or their rabid, aggressiveness in pushing their factual ignorance on everyone around them

55 posted on 03/01/2006 3:04:22 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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