Posted on 03/01/2006 8:05:15 AM PST by grundle
ACLU opposes creation of 'Catholic town'
Domino's Pizza founder wants to build new town with 'Catholic values'
ACLU opposes creation of 'Catholic town'
Feb. 21: The Situation's Tucker Carlson asks Howard Simon, the Executive Director of Florida's ACLU, why his group is trying to stop the founder of Domino's pizza from building a town with Catholic values, and pharmacies that may not stock contraceptives.
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MSNBC
Updated: 3:45 p.m. ET Feb. 22, 2006
If you could build a town from scratch, what would it look like? Tom Monaghan, the founder of Domino‘s Pizza, wants a towering Roman Catholic Church at the center of his proposed new town. He also prefers people who have the same religious beliefs as he does. He wants them to move into his aptly named Ave Maria, Florida.
There‘s one group standing in the way of Monaghan‘s lifelong dream, the American Civil Liberties Union, of course. Howard Simon is the executive director of Florida‘s ACLU. He joined Tucker Carlson from Miami.
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I don't know about this.
How about a Shariah town?
Leave it to the ACLU to oppose freedom of association. If Catholics want to build a town for themselves, they're perfectly entitled and free to do so, IMHO. Same goes for anyone else. The key here is "building." If this were an existing town, with non-Catholic citizens already in residence, it would be a problem.
Vedic City banned the sale of all non-organic foods. They even have their own currency.
What is the difference between those who attack Mosques in Iraq and the ACLU who attack Christians here in America? The only difference I see is the bad guys in Iraq exhibit some manly characteristics.
The ACLU has little stake in harassing Mormon dominated small towns in rural Utah or Amish and Mennonite dominated towns in rural Pennsylvania, where social pressure, rather than law, is the main enforcer of community standards. They are not interested in a place like St. Mary's, Kansas, a community dominated by "rad-trad" Catholics. Little clusters of religious people in rural areas will be dealt with in due time. In the Soviet Union, not until well into Stalin's era, well over a decade after the Bolshevik victory in the Russian Civil War, were remote nomadic herdsmen socialized and Siberian shamanism repressed.
What Monaghan is apparently doing is challenging radical secularism imposed by the Federal courts with his Ave Maria community, not in some backwater, but in a favored resort destination. The ACLU, as a major architect of the de-Christianization of America, has a major stake in answering this challenge. Hopefully, the former pizza tycoon will have his community structured in such a way that it will be protected from lawsuits and other legal action.
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As a Pennsylvanian, I am acquainted with the Amish. There are no exclusive "Amish communities". Most Amish people own and live on farms in the rural areas in the Lancaster - Harrisburg area of PA. There are other areas in the U.S. where Amish people have settled, Ohio. e.g.
They are for the most part apolitical and do not call attention to themselves or assert power. To be sure, they are clannish and try to insulate themselves and their families from outside influences, but they don't force or expect others who live in the same areas to live the way they do.
I think this is different than the Catholic town idea.
Oh, boo hoo, aclu. It's called freedom of religion. Curious how they forget that. Unless they're lobbying for calls to prayer in Michigan or some such. I'm lol because this is hardly a new thing, it's only offensive to the aclu because it's Catholic. The town I live in is predominantly Catholic, about 85%, and it was once over 95%, founded several generations ago by a group of immigrants who wanted to create just such a Catholic community where they could live with civil and Catholic rules and traditions and no persecution from the outside.
There are already islamo-terrorist towns in the US and the UCLA, oops, meant ACLU, isn't opening their effing mouthes.
This is no different then a gated community where they set all the rules concerning how your house can look, what lawn decorations you can have, how many cars you can have etc. etc.
They do not call attention to themselves alright. Like the Amish who insist on driving their horse carriages in public streets and highways and refuse to even attatch an orange reflector to their carriages.
Well look out salt lake city - the aclu is after you , next.
Nothing more than the athiest, seditious, communist-leaning ACLU taking expected action to further erode the values and belief in God that made this country great. Who funds these creeps? IMHO they should all be arrested and deported or put in jail for sedition. They are as un-American as you can get; the ACLU is against God, borders, language, and American culture!
Plesae, anybody, please sue the ACLU.
I'll take one of those boxes of popcorn now.
The ACLU will use any excuse that has some chance of legal success to shut down any Christian enterprise or project anywhere any time.
I think this is different than the Catholic town idea.
How is it different. I build a community with community rules and you voluntarily move in or not. Its not like a 51% Catholic town is imposing something on others.
But good social norms are healthy, even for aethists.
Looks interesting, didn't read the whole thing yet.
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