[John O]

and if feminism had stopped there, before it got to abortion and sexual promiscuity, before it lied to a whole generation of women (that they could have it all, leaving many old and without the prospects of having children), it would have been a good thing. Now however it's negatives outweigh it's positives. Especially since those positives would have happened anyway.

[Melas]

Especially since those positives would have happened anyway.

You say that as though it's a fact, when it's not. I personally doubt that it would have happened anyway. In either event I KNOW that neither of us can prove it one or the other.