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Going Nativist? The next step for Dems.
NRO ^ | February 28, 2006 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 02/28/2006 11:37:47 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Stultis

Well, if they voted for it.

It would more involve keeping people out than keeping people in. The treatment of non-citizens has always been somewhat authoritarian.

But, as I said, they're not going to vote for it.


21 posted on 03/01/2006 7:40:00 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: MNJohnnie

Good point. You forgot that Hoover raised taxes too to balance the budget. And there were other disastrous policies. Three strikes and you're out--for 70 years. There are still diehard Roosevelt democrats out there, even though Roosevelt did many things to prolong the pain. But Republicans got ALL the blame, and they probably deserved it.


22 posted on 03/01/2006 8:03:26 AM PST by B.Bumbleberry
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To: B.Bumbleberry

I had fogotten that on Taxes. Thanks for the correction.


23 posted on 03/01/2006 8:28:48 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: beyond the sea

Yes, really.


24 posted on 03/01/2006 8:31:42 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Stultis; proxy_user
Proxy:

"However, many of our problems are caused by being too rich for our own good, and we might benefit by cutting back a little
Stultis
"Not as a democratic Republic of free citizens little"

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Ah but you see Proxy figures he would be one of the little galtleiters so for him Fascist America sounds like a wonderful idea. Too bad for him and the other little closet Hitlers on both the Left and Right, we got votes and the will to use them.

25 posted on 03/01/2006 8:35:08 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I believe they will begin to rant on this openly using the ports issue as the keystone very soon.

It will be in the name of "security." They don't mean it and it won't go anywhere, but will be a strategy to break up the GOP base.

There are already flirtations with it. I expect it to heat up and be hard to avoid hearing about it by summer. There is no doubt it will work very effectively on some as can be seen by the rumblings around here. The question is...how effective.
26 posted on 03/01/2006 8:35:34 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish
They don't mean it and it won't go anywhere, but will be a strategy to break up the GOP base.

Like Rangel and his call for a Draft? You never hear Republicans say we need a return of the Draft. But Rangel talks about it pretty consistently.

It would almost be amusing for President Bush to indicate that a review of the Draft is on the table. Dems would fall all over themselves getting to the microphone denouncing such talk as racist, and a war against poor folk.

And Rangel's outrage would be greater than anyone's.

27 posted on 03/01/2006 8:45:12 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (E)
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To: ClearCase_guy
He voted against it himself. A HUGE case of disingenuousness.

Democrats really, honestly believe the American people are idiots. Little do they know...
28 posted on 03/01/2006 8:49:42 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish

With your extraordinary ability to explain, you should be an educator.


29 posted on 03/01/2006 9:05:52 AM PST by beyond the sea (Alan Simpson: "All you get is controversy, crap, and confusion from the media.")
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To: beyond the sea

LOL. I thought you were mostly kidding and read sarcasm into that...so I was being flip.

A good lesson in just because I can post, doesn't mean I should.

I'm sorry.


30 posted on 03/01/2006 9:15:07 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish
No need to be sorry!

Just turn the radio off or quit talking so much to hubby in the car, and you'll most likely hear that you're in third gear rather than fifth.

:-)

Yes......... I've done it too (59/male).

:-)

31 posted on 03/01/2006 9:20:16 AM PST by beyond the sea (Alan Simpson: "All you get is controversy, crap, and confusion from the media.")
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To: beyond the sea
ROFL. Oh stop. Actually, it is those things in life that keep me supremely humble. You know...feeling your oats, waving at people on the street...walking into a post.

Ok...back to work for me.
32 posted on 03/01/2006 9:30:17 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: MNJohnnie

Well, I say it is not going to happen, it's not realistic, the voters don't want it.

They may say to cut back on immigration a little. That would be similar to the post-1924 period.


33 posted on 03/01/2006 10:06:18 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: pollyannaish

I was thinking along these lines just yesterday. The Demoncrats will try to use this issue to give the appearance of being for national security. It will be a dishonest stab at increasing their power and that of the unions. An outright grab to nationalize, through government control, anything and everything that looks like a "national security" issue to the moderate dummies out there who still vote (and are uninformed).

This will be loud and emotionalized. It will NOT be an honest debate over HOW to secure our freedoms. We will not hear talking heads debate "is information and spying better, or is shutting the doors and manning the walls better?"


34 posted on 03/01/2006 10:25:08 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: pollyannaish
Actually, it is those things in life that keep me supremely humble.

You may be supremely humble as you say, but I have noticed that you are also supremely decent and good.

Thank you for your FReeper quality and humor.

bts

35 posted on 03/01/2006 11:18:58 AM PST by beyond the sea (Alan Simpson: "All you get is controversy, crap, and confusion from the media.")
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To: beyond the sea
If you're "SWISS", I'm the Queen of England.

You grew up in Pittsburgh, you went to school in Pittsburgh, you served in the AMERICAN MILITARY, you own and run a business ( which according to your personal page is a "perennial nursery" ) and live in Pittsburgh with your wife.

You aren't attached to the Swiss Consulate and just because there is one, in Pittsburgh, doesn't make that part of Pa. SWITZERLAND! :-)

It is also NOT proper to divulge the info and the REAL name of someone not even a member of FR, which you learned about in private discourse. Continue doing so and perhaps I'll use some of YOUR private info, on threads, for no reason, other than to get your goat.

36 posted on 03/01/2006 1:53:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: beyond the sea
I suggest that you stop lying. It really is not helpful to you.

When asked if you had ever heard of HERBERT HOOVER, your answer was "I'M SWISS".

Inandofitself, that was a non squirter.

The other poster, taking you at your word, then went on to tell you about HERBERT HOOVER; assuming that you didn't know much about HERBERT HOOVER, BECAUSE YOU WERE SWISS; NOT OF SWISS HERITAGE!.

And since you did NOT correct his misconception, he and others here, would have continued to be deluded by you, had I not called you what you are; A LIAR!

There are sins of commission and sins of omissions. In your post, you managed to commit both kinds.

Stating that you had LIED/are a LIAR, was a statement of fact; not name calling.

37 posted on 03/01/2006 2:03:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Go to a hospital.

Stay there for a good time.

38 posted on 03/01/2006 2:07:20 PM PST by beyond the sea (Alan Simpson: "All you get is controversy, crap, and confusion from the media.")
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To: nopardons

Go to the hospital.


39 posted on 03/01/2006 2:08:29 PM PST by beyond the sea (Alan Simpson: "All you get is controversy, crap, and confusion from the media.")
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To: proxy_user
No, ISOLATIONISM is not "perfectly feasible for the US.", as you claimed.

Such an action would cause far more problems than just "somewhat higher prices and a lower standard of living" here. If it was instituted, it would cause a depression, the likes of which would make the one we suffered through, from 1929 through WW II, pale by comparison.

Should we cut off all imports, all of our exports would be stopped.

We no longer make a large variety of things. For us to get these various commodities, we would have to not only hope the American firms would spring up to make ( those, of course, that could be made, grown, and mined here; that is ) and sell them here. That would take a great deal of time and in the case of some minerals/ores, needed for our armaments, impossible, since none of them exist here.

Your second paragraph is right out of MARX. We're "TOO RICH FOR OUR OWN GOOD." ? You're no conservative.

40 posted on 03/01/2006 2:14:45 PM PST by nopardons
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