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Preservationists name Glorieta, Gettysburg among threatened battlefields
AP, The New Mexican ^ | February 28, 2006

Posted on 02/28/2006 8:59:18 PM PST by Lorianne

WASHINGTON (AP) - The New Mexico battlefield known as the "Gettysburg of the West" was listed Tuesday as one of America's 10 most endangered battlefields.

Proposed development was one threat cited by the Civil War Preservation Trust in naming the 10 sites located in Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Georgia, Virginia, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi and Washington, D.C.

"Hallowed ground, where more than 600,000 Americans gave their lives, is being paved over in favor of shopping malls, housing tracts and even gambling casinos," the trust's president, James Lighthizer, said during a news conference.

The New Mexico battlefield, at Glorieta, was where Union forces were able to turn back the Confederate invasion of New Mexico.

The Civil War Preservation Trust blames neglect and public indifference for problems such as the weakening of a structure that served as a field hospital.

The real Gettysburg tops the list. The site of one of the largest battles fought on American soil, today it is playing host to a different type of fight: Whether slot machines should come to town.

A proposal that would bring gambling a little more than a mile away from the Pennsylvania battlefield propelled it to the top of the preservation group's list of the 10 most endangered Civil War battlefields.

Hurricanes Ivan and Katrina were blamed for some of the disrepair at Fort Morgan, Ala., and two forts outside New Orleans. Sprawl and a lack of money have contributed to many of the problems at the sites, Lighthizer said.

The other sites are the Shenandoah Valley, Glendale, and Wilderness in Virginia; the Chattahoochee River line in Georgia; Circle Forts in Washington, D.C.; and Raymond, Miss.

The three-day fight at Gettysburg was a tide-turning battle in 1963 that sent Confederate soldiers into retreat and left 50,000 troops dead. It is where President Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg Address warning about the destruction of the nation, and asking that the troops who died there not be forgotten.

Last year, a group of investors from an entity called Chance Enterprises unveiled plans to boost economic development by seeking a slot-machine license from Pennsylvania gambling regulators to anchor the proposed Crossroads Gaming Resort and Spa. State regulators are expected to rule later this year.

The investors released a statement Tuesday accusing the preservation group of lying about its proposed plans so it can raise money.

"It is amazing how the Gettysburg Battlefield has gone from not even being on the trust's list of 25 most endangered battlefield to the top of the list overnight, even though our resort has been a subject of debate and discussion for nearly a year," said David LeVan, the investment group's chief executive officer, in a statement.

"Clearly, the trust is lining its coffers," LeVan said.

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Top 10 most endangered Civil War battlefields

(AP) - The Civil War Preservation Trust's list of the 10 most endangered Civil War battlefields, in alphabetical order:

CHATTAHOOCHEE RIVER LINE (Ga.) _ The line stretches along the northern banks of Georgia's Chattahoochee River, and is where Joseph E. Johnston's Confederates took up defensive positions after the battle of Kennesaw Mountain.

CIRCLE FORTS (Washington, D.C.) _ The circle forts are a ring of 68 fortifications scattered around Washington, D.C., that were built to protect the Union capital.

FORT MORGAN (Ala.) _ It was at this site that Union Navy Admiral David Farragut proclaimed "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" The fort where supplies were smuggled into the Confederacy withstood an 18-day bombardment before it surrendered.

GETTYSBURG (Pa.) _ Site of one of the largest and most costly battles ever fought in the Americas that left 50,000 troops killed.

GLENDALE (Va.) _ Also known as Frayser's Farm, it was the site of the fifth day of fighting of the 1862 Seven Days Campaign. About 6,500 troops died at the site.

GLORIETA PASS (N.M.) _ At the pass, Union forces were able to turn back the Confederate invasion of New Mexico.

NEW ORLEANS FORTS (La.) _ Forts Jackson and St. Philip on the banks of the Mississippi River 70 miles south of New Orleans were able to hold off Union troops for a week in 1862 before Union gunboats broke through.

RAYMOND (Miss.) _ The site was a turning point in Union Gen. Ulysses S. Grant's Vicksburg campaign.

SHENANDOAH VALLEY (Va.) _ Confederate Gen. Thomas "Shonewall" Jackson won fame in the valley for his series of victories in spring 1962.

WILDERNESS (Va.) _ The first clash between Civil War Gens. Robert E. Lee and Grant took place at this site, leaving more than 25,000 troops dead.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; battlefields; dixie; history; militaryhistory; preservation
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1 posted on 02/28/2006 8:59:20 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
The three-day fight at Gettysburg was a tide-turning battle in 1963 that sent Confederate soldiers into retreat and left 50,000 troops dead.

Somehow, it seems longer ago than that . . .

Love those AP proof readers.

3 posted on 02/28/2006 9:35:53 PM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: Lorianne

Maybe it's late and I am not reading clearly but gambling a mile away is endangering the Gettysburg Battlefield? I have been to Gettysburg and the battle field is Park Land. what does gambling have to do with it?


4 posted on 02/28/2006 9:41:19 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox
The three-day fight at Gettysburg was a tide-turning battle in 1963 ...

Charlemagne: Somehow, it seems longer ago than that . . .

Well, cut 'em a break .. they were journalism schooled that the 1960's was the beginning of civilization and that anything before then didn't exist ....... /sarc off

5 posted on 02/28/2006 9:45:19 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox
Somehow, it seems longer ago than that . . . Love those AP proof readers.

If the date is correct the fight lasted much longer than three days.

6 posted on 02/28/2006 9:49:22 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox

Yeah, I was wondering how I missed it......


7 posted on 02/28/2006 9:49:57 PM PST by exit82 (Congressional Democrats---treasonously stuck on stupid.)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Willie Green; Mo1; ..

ping


8 posted on 02/28/2006 9:53:31 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Lorianne

***The New Mexico battlefield, at Glorieta, was where Union forces were able to turn back the Confederate invasion of New Mexico. ****

Ands who was the officer responsible for breaking the back of the confederates?
CHIVINGTON! of later Sand Creek fame!

Dam fine job on both counts!


9 posted on 02/28/2006 10:15:28 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Islam, the religion of the criminally insane.)
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox
"SHENANDOAH VALLEY (Va.) _ Confederate Gen. Thomas "Shonewall" Jackson won fame in the valley for his series of victories in spring 1962. "

Hey, it must not have been that far back- I remember Ol' Shonewall's fights, the year I graduated....

10 posted on 02/28/2006 10:25:58 PM PST by de Buillion (Give us your perverts, pedophiles, and sodomites. San Francisco wants YOU!)
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To: de Buillion

"There he stands, like a shone wall."


11 posted on 03/01/2006 2:08:37 AM PST by angkor
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To: angkor

More accurately:

"There bands Jackson like a shone wall. Sally behind the Virginians!"


12 posted on 03/01/2006 2:11:12 AM PST by angkor
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To: Lorianne

"The circle forts defending Washington, DC..."

These were over run by development decades ago.


13 posted on 03/01/2006 4:43:49 AM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: Ditter
Maybe it's late and I am not reading clearly but gambling a mile away is endangering the Gettysburg Battlefield? I have been to Gettysburg and the battle field is Park Land. what does gambling have to do with it?

Ditter, you kind of have to be there to visualize it, but the area the battle covered is so huge that the battlefield park itself in no way encompasses it. One of the points of going to the town of Gettysburg and to Adams County, PA is to drive around the area and try to truly understand what happened during that three-day period. Three miles is nothing. You can easily see three miles from many points on the battlefield. You will certainly have to wrestle with the monstrous traffic issues a casino would cause on the tiny two-lane historic roads there.

Some of the important areas on this sacred ground, this gigantic cemetery, have already had a KFC built on them. We cannot prevent development in the region, but it would be good to avoid the types of structures that will create problems. My word, things are already bad enough there.

14 posted on 03/01/2006 5:19:17 AM PST by Capriole (The Anti-Feminist)
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To: Capriole
I have been to Gettysburg, have you been to the Alamo? The Alamo is right in the center of downtown San Antonio. It used to be in the middle of nowhere and many many people, Texans and Mexicans, died in the battle of the Alamo.
The Alamo is not diminished because a city sprang up around it. Development happens, as long as The Gettysburg Battlefield is park land it will be fine, you can't control private property.
15 posted on 03/01/2006 6:14:22 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

The action that was fought at the Alamo was fought in a very discrete area: that is, the Alamo itself, not the fifty thousand acres surrounding it, was the site of the historic action.

We can debate the relative importance of the two battle-sites for a long time, but I believe that, even while the Alamo is a tribute to courage, Gettysburg was more important to the establishment of America as a nation in its present form. And I do think that the beauty and poignance of the Alamo are much diminished because so much commercial development sprang up around it.

You're right when you contend that it won't be possible to prevent development in Adams County. But this opens the entire question: do the local people have the right, through their elected representatives, to decide that they do not want a casino, with all of the problems casinos represent, in their town?


16 posted on 03/01/2006 7:22:12 AM PST by Capriole (The Anti-Feminist)
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To: Capriole
Does your state allow gambling? Texas does not and I am happy about that. I dislike gambling and all it brings with it. I think the residents should have a say in allowing a casino but thinking you can control 50,000 acres of privately owned land because there was fighting on it is a bit much. The Alamo originally had a bigger piece of property that is now downtown San Antonio. There are 4 other Spanish Missions in SA. They are treasures too.
17 posted on 03/01/2006 11:20:20 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter
"Does your state allow gambling? Texas does not and I am happy about that."

I am sorry to trouble you, but the state of Texas sponsors gambling, with it's lottery, and the out of state Mega Millions lottery. I also believe that the state allows gambling at the various horseracing tracks in Texas.

18 posted on 03/01/2006 8:56:10 PM PST by de Buillion (Give us your perverts, pedophiles, and sodomites. San Francisco wants YOU!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

what utter baloney. Chivington was a murderous sociopath.


19 posted on 03/01/2006 9:02:51 PM PST by kms61
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To: kms61

***what utter baloney. Chivington was a murderous sociopath.***

Think so? At Glorietta his troops broke the back of the confederates.

And at Sand Creek he showed the world how to deal with terrorists who happened to be Indians.
Go to the Library and get a copy of Massacres of the Mountains by Dunn Jr.
Read it then see if you have that same opinion.


20 posted on 03/01/2006 9:22:35 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Islam, the religion of the criminally insane.)
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