[Southack]

"Well, and this just in, WTH's he been doing with the borders and can any sane person say that the issue there is not harmful to our nation? Home and property values have practically vaporized in some border towns and regions, illegals pour over the borders like water over Niagara Falls, who knows who is coming in, criminals, terrorists, etc. W says something like he said today, but IMO he doesn't have any credibility..."

He has plenty of credibility; everyone in the world knows that if President Bush says that he's going to invade, that he means it.

If he says that he's going to cut taxes, everyone knows that he means it.

If he says that he's going to deploy our National Missile Defenses, then everyone knows that he means it.

That's credibility.

President Bush does what he says. He's governing as President just as he campaigned.

So here's one single, lone, honest question for you (and it is going to rock your world when you figure out the answer):

What Presidential candidate campaigned in 2004 on closing our borders?

Now ask yourself how many votes that candidate got.

Because here's the kicker: no one *cared* about the border issue in 2004 or 2000. So it's a pretty new issue (some might even say "contrived").

So holding President Bush accountable for something that he *didn't* campaign on is disingenuous. If he was running around doing things *not* on his campaign list, then he'd be giving the American people something other than what they voted for...

[Fruitbat]

You're clearly more interested in politics than you are in practicality.

No, on "homeland security" he has credibility issues! Starting a war in another country is not homeland security directly. That last word is a key word here before you jump all over that.

If you think that we have no border issues, then I simply don't know what to say. If we do, W says we don't, or at least hasn't acknowledged any kind of problem. Ergo, he has credibility issues on THAT topic!