[AmishDude]

I use math, don't worship it.

It will only serve you if you understand it.

Oh, and at least when I come from, you don't get a degree in bio without calc. Useful, in its place.

The "calculus" is often a special course watered down specificially for the biologists, if they are required to take it at all. It's a recipe course. Plug and chug.

[From many - one.]

Also watered down or the physics and math majors?

There was some kind of college math for poets, but we also had, and I sometimes taught, college bio for poets. Nice watching the kids have aha! moments.

As for your notion that only a math major or similar can effectively use math, codswallop.

A good deal of meterology, population genetics and I don't know what all eslse requires math fluency thru calc and watered down courses wouldn't have done it.

BTW, understanding evolution requires a fair amount of bio fluency...witness the laemetable failure of responses regarding viral insertion evidence.

[whattajoke]

The "calculus" is often a special course watered down specificially for the biologists, if they are required to take it at all. It's a recipe course. Plug and chug.

Dude, you are embarrassing yourself. Take it from this Biology major - I took Calculus right next to the physicists and engineers. I then went on to take (learn and enjoy) linear algebra and population dynamics which is ENTIRELY math based. I then went on to earn a MS in Population modeling, which, as I'm sure you know, is a biological discipline based entirely one two things: EVOLUTION and MATH.

dumbass.