Utah House kills evolution bill

Fort Wayne Journal Gazette ^ | 28 February 2006 | JENNIFER DOBNER

[zeeba neighba]

Mea culpa, I didn't link it. Send in the cheerleader, 40 pom pom whacks.

[whattajoke]

It does seem odd that evolution, as opposed to other notions, has lately been singled out for special treatment by legislatures. Why is that? Why isn't the general public clamoring against teaching the theory of gravity as "just a theory?"

Very simple: There's no money in it. A creative person could pull it off, but distorting what evolution says is much easier and it fills the coffers - which is the ONLY reason the DI, AiG, Dr. Dino, etc do what they do. It's plain as day.

[Fester Chugabrew]

The building blocks are all the same. Therefore everything may reasonably be assumed to have common origins. But history? This is much more difficult to ascertain, and cannot be done empirically. Many confuse reasonable conjecture with immutable fact. Evolution is largely reasonable conjecture. Immutable facts are hard to come by. Science is more subjective than it cares to admit. Legislatures are not entitled to outlaw evolutionspeak. Nor should they be asked to endorse creationspeak. These are things we as a free people may enjoy in our respective vocations. You are correct in asserting that evolution is a religious conviction for many people, but they are entitled to those convictions - within limits of course. For example, if they want to invoke Darwin to practice eugenics, the law should come down hard on the first practitioner.

[P-Marlowe]

Oh, please DO enlighten us as to how that much of a shift in physiographic forms came about only 5-6k years ago.

Who is in control of the elements? God or Mother Nature?

And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full. And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish? And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith? And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him? (Mark 4:37-41 KJV)

[VadeRetro]

... an "unfortunate, but possibly inadvertent omission of proper attribution."

Or maybe, "coming from a 'scholarly' tradition in which transgressions of untruth-speaking, rule-breaking, and property-misappropriation are allowed if not actualy encouraged."

[From many - one.]

I've got a head start...wrote a couple of punning short stories for a seriously ill relative who needed laughs. One was fish.

[zeeba neighba]

Well no, I'm not in "science"

[js1138]

13,000 feet would be sufficient for any deity contemplating global genocide.

[whattajoke]

It's commentary, but thanks for the link.

What does it being commentary have to do with the fact that you chose to pretend they were your words? And then you thank VadeRetro for the link that you so conveniently forgot to supply.

You're weird.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

"Who is in control of the elements? God or Mother Nature?"

In other words, God made massive changes to the Earth's physiographic form 5-6k years ago, and then hid all of the evidence, replacing it with evidence that shows 4.5G years of stuff happening in an uninterrupted sequence...

God's starting to look a little weird.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

Attributionally challenged?

[P-Marlowe]

Now you've been accused of being "dishonorable". You are really packing in those badges of honor. Congratulations! And... consider the source.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

"13,000 feet would be sufficient for any deity contemplating global genocide."

But the Bible specifies that it went up to over 29,000 feet.

[VadeRetro]

13,000 feet would be sufficient for any deity contemplating global genocide.

There may be a textual-literacy requirement to cover the last tip of everything for people with minds of pure concrete.

[js1138]

Maybe the mountains were lower then. Prove they weren't.

[VadeRetro]

You beat me that time. ;O

[P-Marlowe]

God, who could create the heavens and the earth and all that in them is in six days can certainly flood the Earth in 40.

Don't you think?

God's starting to look a little weird.

I'd suggest you take that up with him. Jesus acknowledged the truth of the story of Noah. I am not about to call Jesus a liar. Are you?

[whattajoke]

There may be a textual-literacy requirement to cover the last tip of everything for people with minds of pure concrete.

Speaking of concrete, which one of our YEC's told us last week that a sort of calcified concrete mixture shot up from below creating all the fossils at once at the time of God's earthicide?

[zeeba neighba]

lol.

[phantomworker]

NO wonder I can never listen to one complete Beer Game! I always have so many serious questions to ponder!

"One was fish?"

Fish: the relative who walked out of the sea so many milenia ago?
Or Fish: the short story: One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish (I Can Read It All by Myself Beginner Books)?