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Utah House kills evolution bill
Fort Wayne Journal Gazette ^ | 28 February 2006 | JENNIFER DOBNER

Posted on 02/28/2006 4:05:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: DennisR
"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said."

Oh, really? Happens every day in a government school.

Not in that area of the country.

1,501 posted on 03/04/2006 1:26:21 AM PST by Victoria_R (Lived in "Northern Utah" for way too long...)
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To: Thatcherite
Its curious that the plantlife that more closely resembles modern plantlife also appears to have been better at running for higher ground.

You, Sir (or Ma'am), are lucky that I had already finished my drink.

1,502 posted on 03/04/2006 4:02:20 AM PST by ahayes
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To: ahayes
You, Sir (or Ma'am), are lucky that I had already finished my drink.

We aim to please.

1,503 posted on 03/04/2006 5:23:16 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Because you have croc-o-phobia??


1,504 posted on 03/04/2006 5:33:49 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Virginia-American

Art thou mocking the Great FSM!!!???


1,505 posted on 03/04/2006 5:35:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: From many - one.
Can you tell me how long it's Lentil?

Ash me no questions and I'll tell you no lice.

1,506 posted on 03/04/2006 5:38:54 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: phantomworker

Now you KNOW you get in trouble with some folks if you don't give a reference for Evoultionary charts!


1,507 posted on 03/04/2006 5:40:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Thatcherite

1,508 posted on 03/04/2006 6:26:43 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Now I see my mistake. It's a good thing that none of those made it onto the ark. Wise of Noah, I guess.


1,509 posted on 03/04/2006 7:35:39 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: Elsie

Does it bug you if I ask questions?


1,510 posted on 03/04/2006 7:53:50 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: Alamo-Girl
"No problem at all, b_sharp! It happens to all of us I reckon.

True, but few jump in with both feet as frequently as I have a tendency to do.

1,511 posted on 03/04/2006 8:42:26 AM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Data dump.


1,512 posted on 03/04/2006 9:04:31 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

And nobody's offered a rebuttal.

If I supply data, I get accused of "spamming." If I avoid "spamming," I get told that I have no data. It's a no-lose argument for creationists.


1,513 posted on 03/04/2006 9:35:19 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: Elsie
Re: 1212... Uh... that IS what this thread is about!

Only if you are somewhat limited and have tunnel vision.

The destruction of public school education is fundamental and inherent to this issue.

1,514 posted on 03/04/2006 9:54:16 AM PST by pop-gun
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To: js1138

Do you know the answer, or you just prefer to analyze and disparage my personal integrity?


1,515 posted on 03/04/2006 10:29:27 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Virginia-American

The Burgess shale apears to be localized and has hardly been exhausted as to its content. Why should one necessarily expect to find fossilized fish in this location unless he assumes this formation took place over a long period of time and demonstrates a history of life forms from the simple to the more complex?


1,516 posted on 03/04/2006 10:35:09 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: b_sharp
The order of fossils indicates a slow progression from smaller to larger fossils . . .

Especially when they are shown to be organized in books as opposed to their original context. Find a fish fossil beneath the others? It is automatically assumed that the other were prior in history regardless of location, and that some geophysical process must have caused them to be contrary to the expected pattern of simple to more complex.

1,517 posted on 03/04/2006 10:38:59 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Mamzelle
Data dump.

Don't let that stop you from reading, and understanding some actual science.

1,518 posted on 03/04/2006 10:40:56 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Ahhh... Triffids...


1,519 posted on 03/04/2006 10:42:00 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Thatcherite; b_sharp

The densities of each organism under conditions of aquatic decomposition would also have a hand in the sorting process. I don't see this being taken into account. Even if it were, should the result controvert the status quo of evolutionsts it would simply be dismissed as incorrectly assessed.

At bottom, you have texts (and people) in whom you place your trust, and I have mine. You are certainly not entitled to have your views specially protected by law from challenge in a public, academic, or scientific context. The only tools you have to address the prospect of a global flood are scoffing, ridicule, and false accusations.


1,520 posted on 03/04/2006 10:45:18 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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