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Now moderate Muslims are angry too
Global Echo ^ | 2/27/06 | Yasmin Alibhai-Brown

Posted on 02/27/2006 12:19:31 PM PST by LibWhacker

So, Guantanamo Bay is an "anomaly" is it Mr Blair? Caging, manacling, beating, isolating, threatening, terrorising, torturing 500 - fathers, brothers, husbands, sons - seems to you just an oddity, an eccentricity, a peculiarity then? How could you not choke on your own words and splutter with shame even as you uttered them?

For four years they have hovered between life and death, some now praying for the latter, as I would too. They have to endure existence without time and reason, submit to brute power, pray in open enclosure while they are bitten and burnt, denied basic human dignity. Only nine inmates have thus far been charged. Having won their right to Habeas Corpus and to make their pleas in the US Supreme Court, that other dishonest charmer, Senator John McCain had that right removed. You, Mr Blair, know evil and collude with it. Your faithful oligarchy and obliging journalists are no better.

Human rights lie bloody and tattered in the US, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Pakistan, secret "extraordinary rendition" centres on the European mainland and in our own prisons. And all the while you swish the cloak of virtue. If it wasn't such a scandal it would be funny, Bush and you, as Batman and Robin, flying through the skies to save the world.

This week, I have been at three events where the majority of people in the audience were educated, sharp Muslims, some exceedingly rich and good friends with key politicians and Prince Charles. Guantanamo Bay and the civil strife in Iraq are topics that now madden even these establishmentarians.

One gentleman took my elbow, shuffled me to a discreet corner and whispered: "I have been here for 40 years, dined with royalty. Today if I was young, I would go straight to Bin Laden. Mr Blair is a war criminal. Don't put my name down, but tell him we detest him." He then said my watch was too cheap and that he would be honoured to give me one more befitting my status. No thanks I said, I didn't need a bribe to say what I feel more every day.

What a waste of hope. Remember the idealistic young Prime Minister? We believed he would take us into a more equal, ethical and accountable Britain. He did deliver in some areas of social policy but all of that now hardly matters as Guantanamo Bay (and Iraq too) once again rise, refusing to be buried by good news. A searing new film, Road to Guantanamo, by Michael Winterbottom (to be shown on Channel 4 on 9 March) tells the story of three young, innocent British Muslim men from Tipton in the West Midlands who spent time in that hell. Their ankles still show indentations from the shackles.

Many people, including me, have asked, how could British citizens bomb London? Not enough have asked that other equally disturbing question: How can Britain consent to this violent injustice meted out to its citizens and others? For Blair the answer is obvious. it is payback for 11 September, when "everything changed" and presumably anything goes. A man fond of targets and numbers, he has not yet told us how many lives need to be paid for each of those poor people blown up in the US. How much bloodshed before the blown up are appeased?

We, the people, witness this arrogance and incessant dissembling and are helpless. Is it any wonder millions have lost faith in politics, honour, in language itself?

Today, Baroness Kennedy's Power Inquiry releases its findings on the democratic health of the nation. It is the biggest-ever national study of political engagement. Britons are not apathetic but are disengaging from a democracy which has turned into its own enemy. Real democrats are protecting themselves from the diseased body politic and its raving behaviour that is spreading a pandemic of fear. Guantanamo Bay is the boil. Never mind bird flu, it is Bush and Blair fever we must contain before it ravages the world.


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KEYWORDS: angry; blair; bush; gitmo; guantanamo; islam; moderate; muslims; trop
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To: Jacques Sherock

What the heck are you talking about?

You'd better re-read my Post #3 again, and it's a bit too early in the day to be drinking so heavily.


41 posted on 02/27/2006 12:47:23 PM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Cultureā„¢)
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To: LibWhacker
"the way mixed-race people are treated in this society will be a test of how well modern Britain is promoting the values of equality, diversity and respect".

From one of her books.

42 posted on 02/27/2006 12:50:22 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: LibWhacker
it is Bush and Blair fever we must contain before it ravages the world.

Seems this fever is following the footsteps of the Muslim infection that ravages the world. Yasim ali-baba and the 40 thieves might have contained the infection so as the fever wouldn't develop, but that's not like a pedophile sycophant.

43 posted on 02/27/2006 12:50:56 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Hey Mo, pass the kid.)
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To: All

Everyone...Don't say anything that'll get you booted! I know the article is infuriating and I apologize for posting it. I just couldn't resist; you don't often hear so-called moderate muslims slip up and tell you what they're really thinking, and I just wanted to capture it here for all time.


44 posted on 02/27/2006 12:51:26 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Dear Islamofascist,
You see, if you are a muslim, by definition you expect "peace through submission" Therefore if you are a "moderate" you are full of crap just as "moderate" so called Christians, believe they are still Christians. The difference between Christians and Muslims is we will not behead, blow up, and murder those who will not convert.


45 posted on 02/27/2006 12:52:00 PM PST by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

Who knows what the administration would really do if the damn lawyers didn't have them in court with 15 different lawsuits blocking and interfering no matter which way it turns?


46 posted on 02/27/2006 12:55:12 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: LibWhacker
Oh, so what! Muslims are always angry. Yeah like this idiot really cares about democracy.
47 posted on 02/27/2006 12:55:39 PM PST by bilhosty
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To: notfornothing
The muzzies are always mad and in a rage.

I'm convinced it's sexual frustration on a massive scale.

I believe the sheep from Brokebutt Mountain would be available for relocation.

48 posted on 02/27/2006 12:56:45 PM PST by jslade (Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
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To: dead

Lol, good point! I think it really happened, but maybe I'm just too taken in by the arab stereotype.


49 posted on 02/27/2006 12:59:25 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Not even slightly interested in Muslims anymore. As far as I'm concerned, if they've got a complaint they can tell it to the Marines.


50 posted on 02/27/2006 1:03:30 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: LibWhacker

'Real Islam' terrorists are to football team

as 'Moderate Muslims' are to Cheerleaders


51 posted on 02/27/2006 1:05:24 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister..but we knew just what to do...we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: notfornothing

I'm convinced it is a brain washing effect of belonging to a murderous 8th century cult. The problem with Islam is Islam.


52 posted on 02/27/2006 1:07:56 PM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

Very well said!


53 posted on 02/27/2006 1:19:31 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: LibWhacker
"How could you not choke on your own words and splutter with shame even as you uttered them...?"

Blah...blah...blah.... Why do these guys always sound like overly dramatic, bad B-movie actors (i.e. "May the curses of a thousand retching camels rain down on your heads like the walls of Jericho", or "We shall smite like Damascus steel on the heads of the infidels and drive them from our holy shithole" or some other such drivel)?

For God's sake, if you want us to "understand the religion of peace", at least LEARN TO THREATEN US IN COMPLETE ENGLISH SENTENCES!!!!
54 posted on 02/27/2006 1:35:22 PM PST by conservativeharleyguy ( Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: LibWhacker
Hey Yasmin,

Blow me.

L

55 posted on 02/27/2006 1:36:57 PM PST by Lurker (In God I trust. Everybody else shows me their hands.)
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To: LibWhacker

A moderate muslim is merely one who hasn't strapped on the bomb belt yet.


56 posted on 02/27/2006 1:49:40 PM PST by kenth (Phil! Phil Connors! I thought that was you!)
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To: Rummyfan

Three young innocent British Muslim men who just happened to be wandering around Afghanistan when the Taliban were overthrown???????

Uh huh.


57 posted on 02/27/2006 1:57:28 PM PST by bordergal (1)
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To: Plutarch
A moderate Muslim is one who is biding his time.

Agreed! The only moderate Muslim is one using hudna to gain the future advantage.

58 posted on 02/27/2006 2:01:13 PM PST by OB1kNOb ("All you get from our media is controversy, crap and confusion.")
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To: LibWhacker
“ Now moderate Muslims are angry too”

The term “Moderate Muslim” keeps being used, but no one can explain exactly what a moderate Muslim really is. Some would have you believe that a moderate Muslim is something like a Christian, a Jew, a Buddhist or a Hindu, and the only difference between them is the name of the entity they worship. They will tell you that our enemy is only fundamentalist Muslims, but exactly what is the difference between a moderate Muslim and a fundamentalist Muslim? Nothing could be farther from the truth.

A fundamentalist Muslim believes that his God demands that he must kill the infidel (me and my family), and he is actively striving to obey his God.

A moderate Muslim believes that his God demands that he must kill the infidel (me and my family), and he has not yet had either the means or the opportunity to obey his God.

The fact that moderate Muslims may be angry about Guantanamo should mean nothing to any American. A Muslim is a Muslim, and Islam is the enemy.

59 posted on 02/27/2006 2:02:06 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Moderate Muslim = A Muslim who has not yet pulled the pin on his grenade and pitched it into a crowd of non-Muslims.

Being a Moderate Muslim, is as impossible as being a "little pregnant"....

You are, or you're not a believer in a murderous cult - that is trapped in the 7th Century.

Semper Fi
60 posted on 02/27/2006 2:11:44 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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