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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Monday Feb 27, 2006
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Posted on 02/27/2006 8:10:15 AM PST by MNJohnnie

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The "Port" of Public Opinion The Patriot Post ^ | February 24, 2006 | Federalist - Patriot Post

Posted on 02/24/2006 10:28:57 AM PST by knightshadow

The port of public opinion...

Protests about the planned transfer of management for several U.S. seaports to a state-owned company in the United Arab Emirates are fraught with almost as much confusion as fervor -- which explains why the current division within the political parties is almost as stark as the one between them. When Karl Rove, Jimmy Carter and The Los Angeles Times line up on one side of an issue, while Senators Bill Frist, Chuck Schumer and The New York Times line up on the other, something is seriously amiss.

Of course, the first casualty of political conquest is the truth, which is not to say that both sides don't feel genuine concern. In an effort to elucidate the issue, let us first distinguish between fact and fiction.

The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, a multi-agency panel that evaluates foreign financial interests in the U.S. with national-security implications, has approved the transfer of management of some port terminals (not the sale of these ports) in New York, Newark, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Miami, New Orleans and Houston. The transfer is from a British owned company, Peninsula and Oriental Steam Navigation Company, to Dubai Ports World, which is headquartered in the UAE. What this means, essentially, is that American managers and longshoremen will now get their checks cut by DPW instead of P&O. In other words, DPW will become one of many operators in these ports.

This does not put DPW in a position to act as an agent for al-Qa'ida, delivering weapons of mass destruction to their terror-cell operatives in the U.S., as has been suggested by some print and Internet tabloids. Direct responsibility for port security is shared by the Coast Guard, Customs and Border Protection, and state and local port authorities. Here it should also be noted that port-management priorities are wholly subordinate to port-security priorities. Of course, port-security operations, particularly those pertaining to interdiction of WMD, are augmented by the entire asset base of the U.S. military, its intelligence community and its law enforcement agencies.

Despite the rancor, the U.S. does not outsource the protection of our critical national-security infrastructure.

Approval of the DPW proposal underwent three months of interagency review. According to Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England, "This review definitely was not cursory and it definitely was not casual. Rather, it was in depth and comprehensive." This is the same review that management companies based in China, Denmark, Japan, Singapore and Taiwan underwent before being authorized to manage terminals in the port of Los Angeles. We might add, China now manages some terminals on both ends of the Panama Canal.

Foreign investment in the U.S., including port management, is nothing new.

As for the assertion that President George Bush should have known about the proposal, Frances Townsend, his senior advisor for Homeland Security, counters, "Rarely do these [reviews] wind up on the president's desk and that's only after there has been an investigation and there is some disagreement. This didn't get there because none of the agencies who reviewed it had any objection."

The public remonstration in this case is the result of a volatile combination of legitimate sentiments: a fundamental distrust of Islamic countries combined with a concern about the potential for terrorist exploitation of our busy shipping ports.

The distrust is warranted, particularly in the wake of 9/11. Not only were two of the hijackers from the UAE, but 11 of the Saudi hijackers traveled to the U.S. from Dubai, and $250,000 used to bankroll the 9/11 attacks was wired through Dubai banks. There were ties between Islamist emirs in the UAE and Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, and the UAE recognized the Taliban government.

On the latter point, however, our intel sources indicate those ties enabled the CIA to confirm the location of bin Laden twice in 1999, but the Clinton administration declined to eliminate him. Bill Clinton has floated several excuses for why he did not act on this intelligence -- which all sank.

Further, Pakistani nuclear proliferator Abdul Qadeer Khan testified that a UAE company assisted him with the transfer of nuclear technology to Iran. However, as we noted two years ago, our sources indicate that Khan was either a CIA operative or a dupe and that the UAE cooperated fully with surveillance of Khan's contacts in Dubai.

Thus, if we want to punish the UAE because it has airports and banks, or because it has cooperated with CIA clandestine counter-proliferation efforts, so be it. There is, however, no suggestion of evidence that the UAE government had any knowledge, much less complicity, with the al-Qa'ida cell responsible for the 9/11 attacks, or any other attack on U.S. interests or personnel. On the contrary, there is considerable evidence that the UAE, along with Kuwait and now Iraq, is a critical ally in the region.

Indeed, since 9/11 the UAE government has provided significant intelligence and staging support in the war against Jihadistan. They have actively participated in the pursuit of al-Qa'ida terrorists. In 2002, for example, UAE officials arrested and turned over to U.S. officials Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, who conspired in the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania and masterminded the attack on the USS Cole in 2000. In 2004, UAE officials arrested Qari Saifullah Akhtar, who trained thousands of al-Qa'ida operatives around the world. He was returned to U.S. interrogators in Pakistan.

As for Dubai Ports World, it already provides support for U.S. Navy ships in Jebel Ali and Fujairah, which accommodates more U.S. Navy ships than any other international port. DPW is also the primary support contractor for U.S. Air Force assets at Al Dhafra Air Base.

Rising above the din, the real issue is this: America's seaports constitute one of many big holes in our border security, regardless of who manages the terminals. Despite the port security that exists both stateside and in the ports of origin, there is no guarantee that WMD won't be smuggled into the U.S. in one of the thousands of cargo containers that land on our shores each and every day.

As we have noted before, when al-Qa'ida has mated the right nuclear core with the right weapons hardware (something they may have already succeeded in doing), getting that weapon into the U.S. will not be that difficult, regardless of who is managing and securing entry points. The harsh reality is that there simply is no way to secure U.S. borders, with even a modest degree of confidence, against importation of nuclear WMD hardware the size of a footlocker, and a fissile core the size of an orange.

This reality accounts for the Bush Doctrine of Pre-emption -- take the fight to the enemy and endeavor to wage war on their turf, not ours. It is a reality for which pre-emption is our only option -- our only chance of preventing a catastrophic attack on our nation.

This is certainly not to suggest that we adopt the French border-security model -- one in which we throw up our hands and run away. Indeed, we need to be vigilant about territorial security. However, allowing a UAE company to manage some port terminals does not constitute a surrender from such vigilance.

For the public, there may be some psychological solace in the assertion that preventing DPW from managing port terminals is tantamount to securing our destiny -- but it is a false sense of security.

The public confusion, media hysterics and, consequently, opportunistic political posturing and demagoguery have all but completely obscured the facts pertaining to our relationship with the UAE and its shipping conglomerate, DPW. The Democrats have used this issue to leapfrog to the right of Republicans on national security, and some Republicans responded quickly by adopting the same line on DPW. Unfortunately, both are doing so at the peril of our national security.

Not only has President Bush declared, "The UAE has been a valuable partner in fighting the war on terror," but has even threatened to veto any legislation to undo this deal. As he has yet to use his veto for any legislation (to our utter dismay, given some great opportunities), threatening a veto in this case can only mean that the consequences of derailing our relationship with the UAE constitute a grave threat to our national security.

Most likely, a compromise on UAE/DPW between the White House and Republican congressional leaders was brokered prior to public objections from Sen. Frist and House Speaker Dennis Hastert. If that compromise is anything other than a "technical delay" in approving this transaction, we believe U.S. national security will suffer the consequences.

Feel safer now?


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To: Liberty Valance

Oh sniff sniff I loved him in Duel. :(


61 posted on 02/27/2006 10:04:16 AM PST by angcat
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To: hattend

OK, silence about past 24 episodes will reign from me...


62 posted on 02/27/2006 10:04:42 AM PST by LibertyLee (George W. Bush--now more than ever--an admitted Idol and 24 watcher)
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm just finishing the 5th season of the Sopranos. Is this 24 that good that I should start on it? Have never seen it.


63 posted on 02/27/2006 10:05:25 AM PST by AGreatPer
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To: AGreatPer

OMG it is the best...belive me...just listen to what Rush has to say about it....also Laura Inghram....and of course those on this board!


64 posted on 02/27/2006 10:06:56 AM PST by navynucmom (Shut Up Edgar..............)
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To: MNJohnnie

Rush mentioned the Westinghouse-Toshiba deal.

He was incorrect.

Westinghouse does not operate any nuclear plants. Westinghouse builds, supplies and services nuclear power plants, but does not run them and has almost no influence on their security or operating cycles.

His overall point is valid however.


65 posted on 02/27/2006 10:07:09 AM PST by kidd
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To: txroadhawg
Here it should also be noted that port-management priorities are wholly subordinate to port-security priorities.

It should be noted that DPW is wholly responsible for hiring its own security staff, its security equipment, etc. Let it also be noted that DPW employees will also be privy to sensitive information.

Rush is drinking kool aid again.

66 posted on 02/27/2006 10:08:47 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: JayAr36
"Rush is becoming a bigger jackass by the day. His rationalization of the Dubai deal is foolish. He and Bush are so involved in this, "Lets be good to them and they will be good to us,BS." they are missing the point. This is a culture war!!!!"

I couldn't agree more. I'm a fourteen year listener and a two year 24/7 member who hates the sarcasm and the aspersions he's casting on anyone who, for any reason, has doubts about the port deal, as "xenophobic" and "racist".
I hate that people like Schumer and Piaps appear to be on the same side that I am with regard to the port deal. My anxiety about Bush and the ports really stems from his immigration shortcomings and his fear of offending anyone at the expense of this country's security. Ironically, Rush's brother, David has a column at Newsmax which captures many of the sentiments that many of us have felt for some time about this.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/2/26/135051.shtml
67 posted on 02/27/2006 10:08:52 AM PST by ncphinsfan
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To: angcat

I'm so sorry angcat. I thought I had you in my list.
Hmmmm. Please forgive. Good morning to you.


68 posted on 02/27/2006 10:09:26 AM PST by Jo Nuvark ((Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3))
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To: Jo Nuvark

Not on the list but who am I anyway?


69 posted on 02/27/2006 10:09:46 AM PST by Mr Cobol (We know how many seeds are in an apple, but only God knows how many apples are in a seed.)
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To: AGreatPer

It IS that good. The only network shows I watch are American Idol and this year after Rush really gave the season start a great promo I watched the first fifth season 24 and got hooked. I am now working my may through 4 years of CDs. (I can't do it as fast as Pukin Dog)... If you like government conspiracy, spying, politics and shoot-em-ups (and you'd scarcely be a FReeper if you didn't) you'll really enjoy 24.


70 posted on 02/27/2006 10:10:37 AM PST by LibertyLee (George W. Bush--now more than ever--an admitted Idol and 24 watcher)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Oh no problem thank you for caring. Good Afternoon to you!


71 posted on 02/27/2006 10:11:02 AM PST by angcat
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To: MNJohnnie

If you're pushing "Guest Worker" you're in the tank.


72 posted on 02/27/2006 10:11:23 AM PST by voteconstitutionparty
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To: AGreatPer

Plus he kills a lot of terrorists....that of course is the best part.


73 posted on 02/27/2006 10:11:39 AM PST by navynucmom (Shut Up Edgar..............)
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To: hattend

hey snowman


74 posted on 02/27/2006 10:12:54 AM PST by sofaman ("Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please." Mark Twain.)
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To: JayAr36

Take your bigotry somewhere else.


75 posted on 02/27/2006 10:14:23 AM PST by TPartyType
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To: All

check out the latest thread by Brian_Baldwin

Is President Bush and comedian Rush Limbaugh Undermining the Morale of the U.S. Troops?


76 posted on 02/27/2006 10:14:25 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: LibertyLee

Go ahead and talk about 24 if you want. I just request you keep it kind of general. I have avoided the FReeper Live 24 thread just because I don't want to know what's going on.

I watched Season 1 in a weekend and I am seriously hooked, I just haven't had all that much time to watch the rest. I was sick all weekend and that would have been a perfect time but it seems like I was dead asleep from Friday night to this morning. The weekend sure slipped away.

I'll get to season 2 this week.


77 posted on 02/27/2006 10:14:33 AM PST by hattend
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To: navynucmom
Plus he kills a lot of terrorists....

He not only kills them but he's quite, shall we say, creative in which he makes them meet their doom...

78 posted on 02/27/2006 10:14:45 AM PST by LibertyLee (George W. Bush--now more than ever--an admitted Idol and 24 watcher)
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To: LibertyLee; AGreatPer
I think the ports issue will be resolved on the merits after this 45 day period.

Looks like a Dem Briar Patch to me. 45 days for Schumer to demagogue and beat Bush's approval numbers down. Not so politically astute. Is Rove asleep?

79 posted on 02/27/2006 10:15:04 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: navynucmom; All

This is the first time that I'm watching 24... Love it.. Now I have to catch up!!!


80 posted on 02/27/2006 10:15:24 AM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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