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Federal protection has led to wolves unafraid of people
Juneau Empire & AP ^ | February 26, 2006 | AP

Posted on 02/26/2006 6:42:20 PM PST by george76

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To: HolgerDansk

They next steps are...

4. Make farming and ranching economically impossible.

5. Take over the bankrupt family farms at a cheap price.

6. Get the leased lands to be "Vacated" from grazing cattle or sheep on BLM and USFS land. Next get the government liberals to convert to these public lands to "wilderness."

7. Get the local zoning changed which will convert the neighboring private farms and ranches to "open space."

8. Open space means new roadless areas created, hiking, biking, and jeeping access is denied.

9. Open space also stops hunting by working folks who need to put food on the table, stops firewood collecting by working folks who use the wood to heat their homes and cook their food...

10. Then liberals like Ted Turner gain a huge financial windfall. He did it outside Las Vegas, New Mexico and elsewhere.

No one can enter the public lands without his permission; it is gated and fenced. He collects a big fee for the privilage.


61 posted on 02/28/2006 7:28:53 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Take no chances, just shoot them. And don't worry about the gubmint. Dead wolves don't talk. ;)


62 posted on 02/28/2006 7:48:36 AM PST by Graymatter (Not A Good German)
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To: Dustbunny

You must have some badass Kuvaszok there.


63 posted on 02/28/2006 7:51:39 AM PST by Graymatter (Not A Good German)
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To: george76

I thought this was an article about Democrats.


64 posted on 02/28/2006 8:05:40 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Eska

What will happen up there when old Bullwinkle is all gone? What's next on the food chain? Or would the wolves just fade away?


65 posted on 02/28/2006 8:06:06 AM PST by Graymatter (Not A Good German)
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To: george76

Liberals need wolves to raise their children.


66 posted on 02/28/2006 8:07:30 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (DO NOT read to the end of this tagline . . . Oh, $#@%^, there you went and did it.)
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To: midwyf

To make italics you use one of these < and one of these > around the letter i, before what you want to italicize. Then place those brackets around /i to stop italicizing.
Remember, though, if you use this in a post you also have to use p in brackets whenever you want to paragraph.
When I'm lazy I just use >> to quote something, though italics do look better.


67 posted on 02/28/2006 8:31:27 AM PST by Graymatter (Not A Good German)
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To: Graymatter
Ya know, in early 90's I had a neighbor who homesteaded his place up here in 1942; smart old german guy fill me in on what I believe is the truth. Balance of nature is boom and bust. You start with 10 times the moose in a specific area than that area could naturally support without predators or game management. Then wolves move in and explode. They work the moose numbers down 75%, then wolves start starving out. Remember over 50% of all wolves are killed each year by other wolves.

The trick at this time is to practice ariel/bounty wolf control. Wolf numbers then collapse and moose explode; cycle repeats. If you don't practice wolf management, then you end up with a stagnant land lacking hardly any moose or wolves. Thats the true balance of nature crap the wolf lovers talk about, where nature lives in harmony with the land. I just wonder why they don't just end their lives to bring humans back in balance with the land; pretty dumb logic.

Problem is wolf people don't want any wolf management and quite a few of them populate the ranks of park/F&G agencies. Also, too many politicals have their hands out for the wolf lovers money.

We have always had alot of wolves in alaska; just in times of wolf management, we also had great moose numbers too. More moose and also more wolves. I'm glad Murkowski has more self respect and common sense. He's expanding ariel wolf control.

Most Alaskans want wolves as they have always been; part of what alaska is and our environment. They also want bounties and effective control and game management for when the wolves grow out of balance.

I have friends that charge back east people good money to run a dogteam and set snares for wolves as a vacation. Same price that an elk hunt would cost, no joke. I also know that if there were bounties, locals & Indians would trap wolves and solve the problem on their own. Wolf control isn't an expensive proposition, its a political one. I guess I'm just glad Alaska still is what it once was wolves and all.

68 posted on 02/28/2006 9:40:22 AM PST by Eska
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To: ExSoldier

Yes, the Kommondore is also an excellent guard dog. Unfortunately the cattlemen don't seem to use working guard dogs.


69 posted on 02/28/2006 10:10:48 AM PST by Dustbunny (Life is the sum total of the choices we make in life.)
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To: Graymatter
You must have some badass Kuvaszok there.

LOL

I love the breed. Frequently wish I had gone with the breed instead of the German Shepherd. Actually love both of the breeds.

Kuvasz

The Turkish word is kawasz, which means "armed guard of the nobility." There is little doubt of the part that the Kuvasz played in the history of the kingdoms and empires which flourished throughout Europe five to eight centuries ago. Dogs of this breed were the constant companions of many rulers.

It was in Hungary that the Kuvasz developed into the form in which he is seen today. He is still a big dog but not the giant of ancient times. King Mathias I, who reigned from 1458 to 1490 had at least one Kuvasz with him at all times. He developed a large pack for hunting purposes. The scope of his breeding did much to perpetuate a strain of the breed. Surpluspuppies were presented only to the noblemen and to visiting dignitaries.

Eventually, long after King Marthias, members of the breed came into the hands of the commoners, shepherds found them suitable to work sheep and cattle. It was in this period the name was changed to its current spelling.

Extremely strong instinct to protect children. Polite to accepted strangers, but rather suspicious and very discriminating in making new friends. Unexcelled guard, possessing ability to act on his own initiative at just the right moment without instruction. Bold, courageous and fearless. Untiring ability to work and cover rough terrain for long periods of time. Has good scent and has been used to hunt game. A spirited dog of keen intelligence, determination, courage and curiosity. Very sensitive to praise and blame. Primarily a one-family dog. Devoted, gentle and patient without being overly demonstrative. Always ready to protect loved ones even to the point of self-sacrifice.

70 posted on 02/28/2006 10:12:55 AM PST by Dustbunny (Life is the sum total of the choices we make in life.)
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To: TChris
...since this behavior is inappropriate, the pro-wolf folks had better hold a mandatory meeting with representatives of the wolf pack to explain the importance of respecting the minimum Distance for Observing Humans...

Too bad for the wolves that Arafat isn't around to 'negotiate' on their behalf.
71 posted on 02/28/2006 11:31:43 AM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: george76

Unhappily, this is exactly what they have in mind, and a lot of them make no bones about wanting to be rid of our archaic way of life out here. One fellow on anohter chat site actually bragged that kids are becoming vegetarians because of the environmental speakers in schools.
I have no idea where they think they will get their veggies if they get rid fo the food producers. Take away what others have to eat?


72 posted on 02/28/2006 12:20:49 PM PST by midwyf (Eliminate government involvement in the environmental religion too.)
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To: joesnuffy

talking about moslems? Seems to be about the same problem.


73 posted on 02/28/2006 12:35:47 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: American_Centurion

You betcha.


74 posted on 02/28/2006 12:42:00 PM PST by isrul
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To: midwyf

Increasingly, our meat is not free range. The feed lots will soon provide almost all of our meat.

Which, then, raises lots of chemical and drug issues in our food.

Instead of many small family farms, we will mostly have huge corporate farms.


75 posted on 02/28/2006 1:00:54 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Emmalein

"Do wolves have any natural predators?"

Bullets, it would seem.


76 posted on 02/28/2006 1:51:32 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (and miles to go before I sleep.)
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To: midwyf
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77 posted on 02/28/2006 1:55:13 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (and miles to go before I sleep.)
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To: george76

Well most of the feeders go from the range to the feedlots, so the range is still needed.
You are absolutely right though that they are eliminating the small rancher, what they haven't brains enough to realize is that ranchers will have to either sell to a big corporate ranch or sell to a developer. Environmentalists aren't going to like either choice.


78 posted on 02/28/2006 2:20:32 PM PST by midwyf (Eliminate government involvement in the environmental religion too.)
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To: george76

If it was so dang important to restore the "natural" ecosystem by bringing back the predator of the bison, elk, etc., why isn't it also important to turn loose the wolf's predator - man?


79 posted on 02/28/2006 2:30:29 PM PST by colorado tanker (We need more "chicken-bleep Democrats" in the Senate!)
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To: midwyf

The eco-nuts have been raising open space money thru state lotteries and tax increases.

They spend this tax money buying ranches and farms for open space. The open spaces often do not allow cattle, sheep, roads, hunting, hiking, camping, biking...


80 posted on 02/28/2006 2:36:02 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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