Posted on 02/26/2006 5:29:26 AM PST by Ellesu
Yeah, and them damn SUVs run around on the ground too.
And why the hell should I retreat from a criminal? It's 'academics' like this that has led to the pussification of America.
Retreat from a criminal, how absurd.
Well, if the attacker is about to push you off a 10 story building, I figure the ground is about as dangerous as things get. It ain't the fall, it's the sudden stop.
The Baton Rouge chapter of the NAACP wants the U.S. Justice Department to conduct an independent investigation into the death of George Temple II, killed by a witness during a scuffle with a Baton Rouge police officer Friday.
Amen to that! Thank goodness that in these parts, the perps rights end when he crosses the threshold. Once the door is locked and the alarm is set, anything coming through a door or window is considered a target.
Deadly force in Virginia: Deadly force cannot be used in self defense unless there is a reasonable fear that the person is in danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm. Being nearly 60 years old, I reasonably believe that “great bodily harm” will result from just about any use of force against me. If I am protecting another person from death of great bodily harm I reasonably believe that if the assailant is using anything other than verbal threats great bodily harm may result.
Bill Makes Deadly Force Legal When Defending Property (South Carolina)
POSTED: 8:30 am EST February 10, 2006
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- The House has passed a bill that lets residents use deadly
force to defend their homes, businesses and vehicles against attackers
without fear of being prosecuted or sued.
The House unanimously sent the measure to the Senate Thursday.
The proposal would put into law what is already precedent through past court
cases and expands what is defendable to include businesses and vehicles.
I'm a mere youngster (51) but I have come to the realization as I grow older that a real youngster (say 20 or so) of the relatively large variety could easily kill me with one good punch. I saw an example of exactly that on TV the other night.
Okay, for those other states that require "retreat," if I'm in my house, where the heck am I supposed to "retreat" to? The fallout shelter I haven't dug yet? Out a window into the waiting arms of an accomplice?
No, my home IS my final retreat. That's what the four walls, door and locks are for.
And why does that not surprise me?
Why can't a POS just be a POS, without bringing in the color of the POS's skin?
Is that concept just too much for their feeble minds to comprehend?
It seems that the NAACP just mindlessly reacts to any incident of this nature as one that just must be, cannot be anything other than a racial discrimination situation, with the mindset that the stupid dead perp is a victim of some kind, just 'cause he's black.
Temple was not armed with his own gun, but family and friends have described him as an athlete who enjoyed boxing. Investigators have not said whether there was a struggle for Harrison’s gun, although the officer — who suffered facial contusions and possibly a broken jaw — did shoot the businessman once in the abdomen during the struggle.
“My understanding is this case is going to turn on the facts, and if the facts demonstrate that the circumstances were such that the bystander had a reasonable belief the officer was in danger of great bodily harm or possibly even death, he was entitled to use deadly force against the perpetrator,” Adams said.
“Not knowing what happened, it’s hard to make a judgment. That’s why we have the district attorney and the grand jury investigate.”
A broken jaw is not great bodily harm?
"Temple was not armed with his own gun...."
HELLO! Was he armed or not? (stupid reporter)
"...but family and friends have described him as an athlete who enjoyed boxing."
As as a "Boxer" his fists were DEADLY Weapons.
"although the officer — who suffered facial contusions and possibly a broken jaw — did shoot thebusinessmanperpetrator once in the abdomen during the struggle."
Okay so here we have a BOXER, still beating the crap out of cop after he was already shot ONCE in the gut. (Some "businessman". Wonder what his 'business' was, beating cops for kicks maybe?)
"Stephens ... retrieved a gun from his car after hearing Harrison yell for help. After hearing shots, he asked Temple to get off Harrison and shot him four times when Temple did not comply. Stephens again unsuccessfully ordered Temple to retreat, then fired a fatal shot into his head, investigators said."
Lemme see if I have this straight...
And the problem is exactly what..........????
No problemo!
He was an honor student, too, I think. Just starting to turn his life around, I believe.
"Ironically, despite the liberal self-defense laws, New Orleans had the highest homicide rate in the country in 2005, for cities over 250,000. Whole lot of killin' goin' on down in the Big Easy."
Yeah, but the great majority of it was gang on gang or otherwise drug related.
Being able to defend yourself in your automobile, was in response to the car jackings down there, of which there were many.
Sounds similar to Texas law, although perhaps a bit more restrictive on the defender.
Well they did do that, didn't they. Given that the officer himself felt threatened enough to shoot the perp in the gut, I'd say that the citizen who came to his aid was justified in so believing.
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