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US Offers Citizenship To 7000 Ahiska Muslims
Islam Online ^ | July 24, 2005 | Damir Ahmed

Posted on 02/25/2006 7:10:24 PM PST by Imnotalib

KRASNODAR, Russia, July 24, (IslamOnline.net) - The United States has agreed to grant citizenship to 7,000 Ahiska Muslims who will be settled in Pennsylvania, reported a Russian newspaper on Friday, July 23.

The first 11-strong batch of the Ahiska Muslims, living in the Russian province of Krasnodar, left for Geneva on Thursday, July 22, before flying to Philadelphia, reported Novie Izvestia.

It added that the Muslims would be housed near the grand mosque in Philadelphia.

The paper recalled that Krasnodar governor Alexander Tkachev was notified of the American decision on February 15.

Izvestia said the Russian government does not treat Ahiska Muslims as citizens and has not therefore given them passports or IDs.

An official in Krasnodar administration had told Interfax on Tuesday, July 20, that of the 11,999 Ahiska Muslims living in the region, 4,943 have received Russian citizenship and 744 have embarked on Russian naturalization procedures.

He added that more than 5,000 others have expressed a desire to emigrate to the United States.

Earlier, Chingiz Neiman-zade, chairman of Vatan, a Meskheti Turks association based in Georgia, said the United States had offered to accept the Ahiska Muslims living in Krasnodar as immigrants.

"On February 16, the International Migration Organization began an information program in Krasnodar to explain the terms for the resettlement of the Ahiska Muslims in the U.S.," he told Chicago Tribune on Thursday, July 22.

"The immigrants will be provided with housing and furniture, they will be helped to learn the English language and to complete formalities needed for residence in the US, which is especially important, and have been promised life-long welfare allowances for pensioners and the disabled."

Happiness

Ahiska Muslims were happy with the American offer.

"This decision marks a great change in our life", said Tepeshon Swanidze, leader of the Ahiska Muslim community in Russia.

"We thank the US administration for its humanitarian decision", he added.

Ahiska Muslims , originally hailing from Anatolia, were exiled from their homeland after Russia seized the region of Ahiska following its 1828-1829 war with the Ottoman Empire.

Many Ahiska Muslims were forced to seek refugee in Erzurum in eastern Turkey after being persecuted by the Russian Cesar for supporting the Ottoman Empire.

Facing a similar fate under the notorious Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, Ahiska Muslims fled to Uzbekistan in 1944.

One year later, they went to Azerbaijan where they currently reside.

Turkish and Azeri parliamentarians had recently appealed for an international intervention to pressure the Georgian government into allowing the return of Ahiska Muslims.

Ahiska became part of Georgia in 1918.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2stupid4words; 4what; ahiska; ahiskamuslims; border; immigrantlist; islam; jihadinamerica; muslim; muslims; ohgoodie; peace; religion; russia; terror; terrorist; why; whywhywhy
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To: Imnotalib
Statistics show that among foreign Muslims, a large percentage believe crazy things like the CIA and the Jews were responsible for 9-11. Many of them, if not a majoriy, believe that either we were responsible for the tsunami that hit Indonesia, or Allah did it to punish the area (despite the fact that far more Muslims were killed than Christians).

Statistics show that among foreign Muslims Democrats^, a large percentage believe crazy things like the CIA and the Jews were responsible for 9-11. Many of them, if not a majoriy, believe that either we were Karl Rove was^ responsible for the tsunami that hit Indonesia, or Allah did it Bush ordered the use of secret weapons^ to punish the area (despite the fact that far more Muslims were killed than Christians).

161 posted on 02/25/2006 9:52:14 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: DoughtyOne

Ah, that would be Queen of Cheap Shots, sweetie.


162 posted on 02/25/2006 9:52:36 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: McGavin999

Look, I don't like coming down on people, but what do you expect others to do, just sit there and take this? I don't care if this did happen seven months ago, it did happen under this administration and it's simply unacceptable.

How would you like it if seven to ten thousand people from a foreign nation moved into your neighborhood within the period of one or two years?

Would it please you if they all landed in your neighborhood and not one single soul was left that spoke English in a four mile square with you right in the middle of it?

That's essentially what is going to happen to other citizens, because these folks will land in one specific area. The democraphics of that neighborhood will be forever changed.

This isn't about xenophobia. It's simply about survival. The people that lived in that neighborhood before the invastion, did have a right to their culture, language and way of life. Don't you think they did?

Would it have to be racism just because they didn't want be be swamped by 7-10 thousand foreign nationals?


163 posted on 02/25/2006 10:00:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: McGavin999

"I have enough faith in this administrations determination to fight the war on terror that if they decided to bring in people, there is no way there would be any connections with terror."

I wish I shared your optimism about there not being any connections with terror. There is no way the US can verify that the people being allowed in are not connected to any terrorist groups. Who are they going to ask? The Russians? They want rid of them. Russia is a country where 1 out of every 7 people is a Muslim. Why do they want to get rid of these people so badly?? Plus, how hard would it be to fake being one of these people? Fake documents are very easy to come by in Russia - especially if you have someone else paying the bribes for you....

Having said that, I'm sure that the majority of them are probably not a threat. But why are we bringing in pensioners and others who will live off of the state? Plus, there are plenty of others from that region who have just as compelling reasons to immigrate to the US who cannot because this number (7000) counts against the immigration quota.

My question is - why isn't Georgia accepting them? Most of them appear to have surnames common for that area and would be able to assimilate.


164 posted on 02/25/2006 10:00:22 PM PST by Romanov
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To: Imnotalib
Did you post this seven month old article just to raise FReepers' blood pressure.

Tain't funny!

165 posted on 02/25/2006 10:00:49 PM PST by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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To: upchuck

Very good catch. As if there isn't enough hysteria now.


166 posted on 02/25/2006 10:03:11 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: McGavin999
Thank you McGavin999,How can you read the blogs-know the language?Xenophobia"phobic attitude toward strangers"had to look it up.I ran a thrift store and had mostly Muslins-Liberians and Nigerians-they had the money and bought in bulk to send back home or maybe to sell.The single women got pregnant.The married couples -the wife worked and the husband went to college and worked.One of my best friends was a single woman-she had 2 children to her husbands that she never married but she died by a blood clot at 35 -1 year ago.
167 posted on 02/25/2006 10:05:44 PM PST by fatima (Just say it if it is for love-have no regrets.)
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To: DoughtyOne
The point is D-1, that you don't even know if it happened. It's a 7 month old article with no confirmation. Don't you suppose you might read something in.....oh....say a local paper or something if 11,000 people were suddenly settled in a town?

Everyone's going off half cocked on something that hasn't been confirmed. Since when does FreeRepublic believe Islam Online as a credible source?

168 posted on 02/25/2006 10:06:20 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: McGavin999

Please read the data at the links I provided starting at the Washington Post link. Thank you.


169 posted on 02/25/2006 10:07:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: McGavin999

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1524273/posts


170 posted on 02/25/2006 10:09:16 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: McGavin999

This will take you directly to the Washington Post site, if that's more valid IYO.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/17/AR2005111702014.html


171 posted on 02/25/2006 10:10:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: fatima

Most of the educated class in the middle east speak and write fluent english. Particularly doctors, dentists, scientists, educators etc. because most of the journals, manuals, textbooks are written in english. When the blogs first started, the english was VERY rough. You could barely understand what they were saying. Over the past couple of years it has become so good their writting is better than most American journalists.


172 posted on 02/25/2006 10:10:43 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: DoughtyOne

The Cossacks! You're worried about the Cossacks?


173 posted on 02/25/2006 10:13:28 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: rajuchor

Maybe they'll just come over on the "guest" worker program?


174 posted on 02/25/2006 10:15:06 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: DoughtyOne

According to that that Washington post article..We have confirmation...Posting an Excerpt(Allowed)

"In the past year, just more than 5,000 Meskhetian Turks have resettled in the United States as refugees, and 4,400 have approval to immigrate, according to the U.S. Embassy in Moscow. Another 7,000 have filed applications that U.S. officials are reviewing."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/17/AR2005111702014.html


175 posted on 02/25/2006 10:16:07 PM PST by Revel
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To: rolling_stone

More like "Malice in Blunderland".


176 posted on 02/25/2006 10:18:13 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: AmericanDave

And this entitles them to take OUR money?? Maybe they should earn their OWN money!! What ever happened to responsibility being placed on a sponsor who guaranteed the immmigrant wouldn't be a drain on the U.S?


177 posted on 02/25/2006 10:18:19 PM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: McGavin999

If you'll read the information, you'll find that this is the same area. The people are simply being referred to in different terms.

The sad thing about people like you, is that you demand proof of something, but when people provide it you simply dismiss it and morph the arguement to another point.

Intruducing a massive amount of immigrants to one specific area is very destructive to the local culture. The Washington Post story talks about 4,000 already transferred, another 4,000 already approved for transfer and another 7,000 who have applied on top of that.

We're talking about 15,000 foreign nationals, that will be relocated to one specific area. Those people will obtain all sorts of government supports that you and I will wind up paying for.

You think this is okay?


178 posted on 02/25/2006 10:18:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: McGavin999
Well they do speak proper English because some were taught by the English but,what are they saying .Can you send a bit.I have a headache about this because most in the USA have concerns about jobs-housing-education too and they seem to benefit more from coming in from a different country than if we live here.
179 posted on 02/25/2006 10:19:10 PM PST by fatima (Just say it if it is for love-have no regrets.)
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To: Revel

Thanks for the note. I appreciate it.


180 posted on 02/25/2006 10:20:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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