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To: ElPatriota

Presidents don't do things to win points with the people. I know you don't believe that. But it's true.
What I really wished were true is that our elected officials show some minimal concern about your typical concerns. They just don't.

Example: Your idea that the Feds should have just started bailing water. It was'nt set up that way. It just was'nt. By the laws that ruled at the time, they could not do that. Local and State were supposed to.

That has changed. Because of Katrina. At least in some situations it is supposed to be different. We will see.


You show a lot of just plain lack of knowledge about the rules we operate by. You're surely not alone... most of us do.


As a loyal American, you have the backbone and the integrity to still support our President,even tho he is driving all of us nuts with his idiocy on immigration. He is allowing a serious situation to grow more severe by each moment and we have'nt seen the horrors that might still happen as a result of it. Allowing Mexico to "rape us" this way.Letting terrorists and criminals flood into our country. Putting all of our social services infrastucture in serious jeapardy. The whole situation is extremely urgent, yet nothing is being done.

If you think youre frustrated, at least you are not alone. All caring Americans see this unfinished business as potentially fatal...and everyone I talk to is extremely concerned about it.

Asking for and providing support to this President is what must be done. Because our own Bush Haters are only out to destroy our government. They are so full of hate and mean intent that they actually have no plan for fixing or improving anything...and they are fighting like crazy among themselves. Putting them in office would be like pouring gasoline on a raging fire.

We got to stick with this administration and demand real fixes and complete programs for all of these problems. This is no time to cut and run.



99 posted on 02/26/2006 1:51:56 PM PST by CBart95
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To: CBart95

So, he's killing us, but we have to support him because the alternative is worse?


101 posted on 02/26/2006 4:09:35 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth!")
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To: CBart95
Post 23 - Bush is finished.

Post 99 - Because our own Bush Haters are only out to destroy our government..... We got to stick with this administration and demand real fixes and complete programs for all of these problems. This is no time to cut and run.

Huh?

102 posted on 02/26/2006 4:50:47 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: CBart95
HI, well, the good is that I have been trained :). I have a friend a work so super-conservative it makes look like centrist almost a a lefty :), we sort of agree on the bottom line but never if how to get there.

By points I meant the fact that politician are trying to get our vote all the time. It happens with my local politicians. They try to score points with me. They try to impress me with all the things they have done or plan to do so that I will vote of them. That is what I mean.

About the Katrina point... that is when you reminded me of my friend - the master of detail, he knows everything - 3 days prior to the weekend when the army finally went in in force with all the helicopters picking up people.. he was convinced Bush had nothing to do with it...again details and more details... this was a state problem and the president did not to...etc etc etc. I told him, Bush better show his a** there, somehow and quickly or he will pay the price....because regardless of the details and technicalities, he by virtue of being the president, HAS A RESPONSABILITY to have done something in helping out those in Katrina, as he finally did. I was of course delighted when I saw the army in all its splendor doing a fantastic job helping those people over there... still, look at all the flack that Bush from that one. See, I am convinced we have entered into a new era of politics. I think it's because of the Internet mainly, that people can get together, organize themselves, just like we do here, apply more pressure where is needed, etc, etc. The "new media" as is called pay attention to what we say on boards like this.. after all we are the regular Joes, who can give them a feel for what is goin on. But one you are right, I am not one knows about rules, regulations, laws, etc... but one thing I know, I know politicians and what they are about :)

Take care.

104 posted on 02/26/2006 5:55:23 PM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget that we are still friends despite our differences!)
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To: CBart95
Example: Your idea that the Feds should have just started bailing water. It was'nt set up that way. It just was'nt. By the laws that ruled at the time, they could not do that. Local and State were supposed to.

Oh and another thing... And another concession! my English is poor and besides I write fast and miss words..sorry.

Again on Katrina... the example was meant to show that when one has, for instance, a flooded basement, one should close the source of the water first, before you start the get the water out... I did not mean that the "Federal Government" should go and push their way into "matters a state," etc, etc, etc.... :), I know that much about the government... sorry

106 posted on 02/26/2006 6:06:07 PM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget that we are still friends despite our differences!)
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