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Fred Barnes: Losing Friends and Influence (President Bush misjudges immigration and the ports issue)
The Weekly Standard ^ | March 6, 2006 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 02/25/2006 2:30:07 PM PST by RWR8189

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To: Txsleuth
I think this Specter legislation should be stopped now.

We need to take a very close look at our H1 and J visa programs.

Big business is driving this increase in H1 immigration for money purposes only.

Let Americas security be damned.

Some countries are totally dominating the H1 programs.

Does anyone have any figures on where the H1 immigrants are coming from.

If we don't have enough engineers and scientists then turn some of these socialists liberal arts schools into true universities teaching science and math.

I would start with Bezerkely.
81 posted on 02/26/2006 10:39:01 AM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Yes, she is....and from what I have heard, she has made a few mistakes..

I just think they put her in the wrong position....she is better by Bush's side, as a spin controller.


82 posted on 02/26/2006 10:47:59 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
His plan is clear and its devolving the US into a damned Socialist Community of North American, on the way to global governence.

I think you've inadvertently hit upon something there. There are some Marxists who, despite the fall of the Soviet Union, hold on to the hope of a revolution. Ordinarily, the failure of Marxism to accurately predict future events would cause one to abandon or--at least!--revise it. Not so. Why?

One defense that those in academia today put forth is that the understanding of the theory was flawed. One must first have a global economy before one has a global socialist revolution. A North American Community would be a good start. By supporting this initiative, the self-styled champions of capitalism and free trade would, if not help to usher in a more socialistic system, at least leave the door open for it.
83 posted on 02/26/2006 10:49:12 AM PST by Das Outsider (The chief end of man is not civil freedom.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
lolz

You're supposed to say, "Easiest time I ever did."
84 posted on 02/26/2006 10:50:52 AM PST by Das Outsider (The chief end of man is not civil freedom.)
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To: OKIEDOC

When I first saw this "plan" by Specter, I thought it was SO bad...that surely he put it out only to try to deflect attention from the bad press over the Dubai Ports deal...

I guess I was wrong...and so is Specter.


85 posted on 02/26/2006 10:52:17 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: GarySpFc
The correct terminology is illegal alien, NOT illegal immigrant.

'Alien' is the correct legal term. 'Immigrant' tends to conjure up images of ethnically diverse huddled masses yearning for a piece of that American dream.

The former term refers to one's status of residency (or non-residency).
86 posted on 02/26/2006 10:57:15 AM PST by Das Outsider (The chief end of man is not civil freedom.)
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To: Das Outsider

They plan to implement the Community by 2010.
That makes this next election the last one.

At least the last legitimite one.

Problem is, all the main contenders are part of the plan.

Just like the last one.

Now I see that while Gore was never in the Council, his daughter has joined. Could be that a rehabilitated Al Gore might be in the mix, too, for 08.

Rice, Cheney, McMainiac, Frist, Hillary, Warner, Richardson, all in the Council, all against America. Guliani and Romney appear to be on their waitlist.

The only one I'm still sure is on our side is Mike Pence.


87 posted on 02/26/2006 11:05:42 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth!")
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Guliani and Romney appear to be on their waitlist.

Lovely!! Thanks for always watching that and letting us know :)

88 posted on 02/26/2006 11:23:01 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: CBart95
And the sad part of all this, is that he could have succeded in fixing the illegal Immigration problem had he used COMMON SENSE, as Fred indicates. What did they do in New Orleans. Did they star bailing the water out first? or "secure the leevs first, THEN bail the water out? :)

That's right, he could have done something dramatic - just like he did with NAS) - and say "enough of thes BS," let's close the bordes and even warn the nation that we would address the illegal people in the country. I would have bought it. BECAUSE I KNOW, it is impossible to find all the millions of illegals, "put them in trains" and send acrroos the border!... we know that. AGAIN, what I did not like was, again, his JUDGMENT, the way he thinks, his logic... I also did no agree with Miers for the suppreme court! and also, as important as the social security problems are, I still felt uncomfortable he chose this issue as his most important issue and blew away most of his "politcal capital," Even then, I tought, why could not he have taken the Immigration problem (illegal, should be understood) FIRST! score some points and then tackle something bigger...The problem is that when one begins to lose confidence in someone's judgment... oh well, that is a problem.

One more thing, let me clarify, he is still doing ok, NOT EVERYTHING he does is wrong! It's just like in baseball.. he is probably hitting 300 now , but he could have been hitting 700! had he done it right :)

89 posted on 02/26/2006 11:30:19 AM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget that we are still friends despite our differences!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
They plan to implement the Community by 2010.

I'm very familiar with the Council on Foreign Relations and the tripartite Community that is in mind.

The idea is so absurd that it makes me wonder, "Have I got the facts wrong or are these people like lemmings, all jumping to their death?" One of those Twilight Zone moments, you know.
90 posted on 02/26/2006 11:37:40 AM PST by Das Outsider (The chief end of man is not civil freedom.)
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To: Das Outsider

Queue the creepy music.

When you read their arguments in favor of destroying the nation, the arrogance drips off the pages. The only thing worse is the mushskulls who close their eyes, cover their ears and scream out loud so as not to see or hear what's happening.


91 posted on 02/26/2006 12:40:04 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth!")
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To: Borax Queen

I'm just guessing on that, so far. Haven't yet found proof. But they fit the mold. Will keep my eyes on them.


92 posted on 02/26/2006 12:44:47 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth!")
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Das Outsider

To paraphrase a friend of mine - "There are many that can be led to the slaughter easily...and a lot that will aid Evil WILLINGLY!"


93 posted on 02/26/2006 12:46:16 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: RWR8189
In other words, soften up the immigrant-bashers with dramatically increased border security...

Is this fool under the impression that these people are immigrants? They're law breakers who are cutting in line ahead of millions of true immigrants who are waiting to enter the US legally. I'm very sorry if their country of origin is a poor, corrupt, backwards nightmare. That doesn't mean they have the right to disregard our laws and undermine our national security.

Fred Barnes needs to spend some time in a border state so that he can enjoy the many social contributions (murder, theft, rape) of the illegal aliens he seems to so adore.

94 posted on 02/26/2006 12:51:10 PM PST by BearArms
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To: GarySpFc

There is even a Chinese language manual available for those who wish to learn how to scam SSI.


95 posted on 02/26/2006 12:53:05 PM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Liberals, Jihadis and the Mexican elite all deserving of "preemption.")
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To: devolve

Looks good, wish Gregory would see it!!


98 posted on 02/26/2006 1:23:51 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: ElPatriota

Presidents don't do things to win points with the people. I know you don't believe that. But it's true.
What I really wished were true is that our elected officials show some minimal concern about your typical concerns. They just don't.

Example: Your idea that the Feds should have just started bailing water. It was'nt set up that way. It just was'nt. By the laws that ruled at the time, they could not do that. Local and State were supposed to.

That has changed. Because of Katrina. At least in some situations it is supposed to be different. We will see.


You show a lot of just plain lack of knowledge about the rules we operate by. You're surely not alone... most of us do.


As a loyal American, you have the backbone and the integrity to still support our President,even tho he is driving all of us nuts with his idiocy on immigration. He is allowing a serious situation to grow more severe by each moment and we have'nt seen the horrors that might still happen as a result of it. Allowing Mexico to "rape us" this way.Letting terrorists and criminals flood into our country. Putting all of our social services infrastucture in serious jeapardy. The whole situation is extremely urgent, yet nothing is being done.

If you think youre frustrated, at least you are not alone. All caring Americans see this unfinished business as potentially fatal...and everyone I talk to is extremely concerned about it.

Asking for and providing support to this President is what must be done. Because our own Bush Haters are only out to destroy our government. They are so full of hate and mean intent that they actually have no plan for fixing or improving anything...and they are fighting like crazy among themselves. Putting them in office would be like pouring gasoline on a raging fire.

We got to stick with this administration and demand real fixes and complete programs for all of these problems. This is no time to cut and run.



99 posted on 02/26/2006 1:51:56 PM PST by CBart95
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To: devolve

Ooo, that looks nice. I haven't seen that picture of the towers before.


100 posted on 02/26/2006 2:13:11 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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