Yes, especially with our country going through one of it's sleep-walking phases!!
1) The RA have nothing to do with AQ (why is Vlad at such pains to point this out?)
I guess he doesn't wish for the IRA to be added to Dubya's 'list'.
To me, there's no difference between the shankill bucthers and sinn fein. Their very essence is violence and terror - period.
Yes, and the only reason we make a bigger deal of the IRA at the moment is because of the magnitude of the threat they pose - if it was the Loyalists tomorrow, we would concentrate on them.
You wrote:
Yea, I'm definitely getting a bit jaded listening to the same old mantra. Good fun though listening to someone who really believes that democracy is so strong that it cannot be sub-vented by terrorists. Best to walk off leave well alone. To sum up Vlads talking points in his last post to me: 1) The RA have nothing to do with AQ (why is Vlad at such pains to point this out?)
I wasnt at any pain to do so at all. You claimed, without evidence, to the contrary concerning the IRA and Al-Qaeda.
2) Libya's guns and semtex to murder those who opposed their murderous regime happened in the 70s and 80s - history, get over it man, stop living in the past!
Nope. I just pointed out the obvious. Those events were in the 1970s and 1980s. You made assumptions about NOW based on those events decades ago. I, unlike you, actually remember what you wrote. This was the paragraph:
I find your post hilarious! I believe GW Bush when he says Al Quada are a threat to western democracy and they have a lot less then 10% support in the US. Remember, the shinbags have connections with all sorts terrorists organizations around the world. They used Libya's guns and semtex to murder those who opposed their murderous regime, politicians, community leaders, police, anyone.
Clearly you were the one AT PAINS to link the IRA to Al-Qaeda and tried to do so by saying, 1 ) the shinbags have connections with all sorts terrorists organizations around the world, 2) They used Libya's guns and semtex to murder those who opposed their murderous regime, politicians, community leaders, police, anyone, after referencing Al Qaeda. And that was not the only time.
In your previous post you had written: There are Al Qaida operatives in this country as I speak, don't tell me Sinn Fein/IRA don't know who and where they are. So who here is at pains WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL to prove something about Al Qaeda? Its you, not me.
3) It's all the Brits fault anyway
No, but certainly they had a large role to play. Do you deny that they in fact hold some responsibility in all the troubles of Ireland over the last few centuries? My comment was much more even-handed than your insipid caricature of it:
but the people of Northern Ireland and Britain could have done more about the other two problems and the Provos would never have had a reason for being in the 1970's and 1980's. Do you deny that that is true? Couldnt the people of Northern Ireland and the British have done more to forestall the resurrection of the IRA?
4) This is the 21st century.
And do you deny that it is the 21st century?
5) Every thing about the IRA we mention are fantasies
And who said that? Not me. If you wish to attack what I believe do you think you could muster up enough integrity to actually attack what I in fact said? Your nutty idea that the IRA will overthrow Irish democracy is a fantasy.
The problem I see here with some on this thread is that if you loath the shinners, as I do, then you are somehow in tow of the loyalist terrorists on the other side. To me, there's no difference between the shankill bucthers and sinn fein. Their very essence is violence and terror - period.
Some of this thread? You are not talking about me.
I guess he doesn't wish for the IRA to be added to Dubya's 'list'.
Would that mean they will suddenly be overthrowing Irish democracy? Nope.
Yes, and the only reason we make a bigger deal of the IRA at the moment is because of the magnitude of the threat they pose - if it was the Loyalists tomorrow, we would concentrate on them.
The IRA poses no threat of any magnitude. Get a grip.
Have a good Lent!