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To: Irish_Thatcherite

You wrote: "Why can't you all listen to the opinions of someone who actually lives in Ireland?"

We are "listening". We are also disagreeing. We are free to do both.

"The IRA have murdered innocent Protestants in Northern Ireland, in a war against British democracy."

A war against British democracy? No. The IRA uses democracy to achieve its goals. It doesn't care about or for democracy in itself and wouldn't waste time fighting against it when it has proven so useful to their cause.

"They have murdered members of the Irish police force, in a war against Irish democracy."

No. The IRA has murdered those who get in the way of its larger enterprise (making war on the Brits) and its subsidiary enterprises (gun running, smuggling, illegal businesses of all kinds, political opponents, Protestant thugs, innocent Protestants whose deaths can be exploited, etc). The IRA is not waging a war against Irish democracy. If it is, it is the most low level, unintensive, down right dull sitzkrieg in recorded history.

“They are engaged in a criminal conspiracy to overthrow Irish demcoracy, and replace it with a socialist dictatorship.”

No. The IRA knows it will never overthrow any government and has made that plain in its halting entrance into a political deal with Britain over the last 15 years. You can shout “conspiracy” all you want, but Ireland is safe from any significant move by the IRA.

“They are in league with FARC, ETA, the PLO, Al Qaida, etc.”

The first three most certainly. Al Qaida? Doubtful. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4718223.stm

“They are allies of Castro and Chavez.”

Probably true. They will cozy up to anyone who can further their cause. We would do the same if we thought it necessary.

“And all you can complain about are Orangemen banging a drum, crybabies!!”

You seem to be the only crybaby here. You are whinning and whinning in post after post. Be an adult for Pete’s sake. If you’re modern Ireland then YOU WILL LOSE to the IRA with that childish attitude of yours.


57 posted on 02/26/2006 1:42:02 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
A war against British democracy? No. The IRA uses democracy to achieve its goals. It doesn't care about or for democracy in itself and wouldn't waste time fighting against it when it has proven so useful to their cause.

They are against democracy, therefore they wish to destroy it! Of course, they will use democracy in order to destroy it.

The IRA is not waging a war against Irish democracy. If it is, it is the most low level, unintensive, down right dull sitzkrieg in recorded history.

They are engaging in a criminal conspiracy against the Irish Republic. If you pick up an Irish newspaper, such as the Sunday Independent or the Sunday World, you will read that, in fact a search here on FR will show threads relating to the IRA conspiracy.

No. The IRA knows it will never overthrow any government and has made that plain in its halting entrance into a political deal with Britain over the last 15 years. You can shout “conspiracy” all you want, but Ireland is safe from any significant move by the IRA.

The Weimer Republic was safe from Hitler!

The first three most certainly. Al Qaida? Doubtful.

So they make deals with fellow demons, but draw the line with the Devil himself, sure.

Probably true. They will cozy up to anyone who can further their cause. We would do the same if we thought it necessary.

I see no necessity here, in fact no necessity for the IRA.

You seem to be the only crybaby here. You are whinning and whinning in post after post. Be an adult for Pete’s sake. If you’re modern Ireland then YOU WILL LOSE to the IRA with that childish attitude of yours.

Excuse me for getting angry at a terrorist organization attacking members of the Irish police and the general public on our country's main thoroughfare, excuse me for getting angry at those who make excuses about it.

61 posted on 02/26/2006 2:40:27 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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