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The Tragic Treatment of the UAE Ports Deal
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| February 24, 2006
| Harold C. Hutchison
Posted on 02/25/2006 3:00:55 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
This guy nails it. Thanks for posting. It is sad when Michelle Malkin, Sean Hanity, and John Gibson can establish the talking points on a matter like this and get it so wrong... When they start mouthing points made by Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton, they should realize they are off in the woods and doing the country wrong.
The White House has again shown lousy political skills to allow this to get so distorted in the media -- very concerning going into a mid-term election.
To: syriacus
So just on this thread we have heard from Baltimore, Miami, DC and NOLA. Can a Detroit freeper be far behind, or do they not have any tourism at all?
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:20:06 AM PST
by
maica
(We are fighting the War for the Free World. Democrats and the media are not on our side.)
To: cripplecreek
It seems that American companies don't want to run our terminals
.
Should we nationalize the companies which run our terminals and ports?
or
Do we want our government to run the terminals and ports?
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:21:46 AM PST
by
syriacus
(Hillary: Millions to China's state-run shippers; not one RED cent to the UAE shippers)
To: syriacus
Hillary's "concerns," as a Democrat, about Homeland Security are a joke.
Hancock, N.Y.
See this
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:23:35 AM PST
by
Wolverine
(A Concerned Citizen)
To: maica
So just on this thread we have heard from Baltimore, Miami, DC and NOLA. Can a Detroit freeper be far behind, or do they not have any tourism at all?I'm originally from Chicago...does being stuck on an "el" during a gang fight in the 60's count as being in a bad neighborhood?
You can bet I didn't take that "el" again.
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:24:23 AM PST
by
syriacus
(Hillary: Millions to China's state-run shippers; not one RED cent to the UAE shippers)
To: Darkwolf377
I love Michelle Malkin, I love Michelle Malkin more than you love Michelle Malkin--but she is wrong here.
Our greater threat to national security are the TSA workers at our airports and the millions of illegal aliens swarming across our borders.
Those in an uproar over the port deal lack facts. The real question, however, is where are the American companies who could operate the port? Were they in a bidding? Were there bids?
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:26:12 AM PST
by
Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
(Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: syriacus
Should we nationalize the companies which run our terminals and ports?
Nope, we should make it affordable for American companies to run them. I'm thinking good ole conservative tax cuts. Big ones.
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:27:17 AM PST
by
cripplecreek
(Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
To: Wolverine
Scary. Hillary and Chuck are my Senators. I have no confidence in them to do anything, except grandstand, on security.
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:27:35 AM PST
by
syriacus
(Hillary: Millions to China's state-run shippers; not one RED cent to the UAE shippers)
To: Darkwolf377
Lots of talking heads are wrong in this situation. When you start playing politics and ignore what is right for our beautiful America, situations like this occur.
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:30:18 AM PST
by
devane617
(An Alley-Cat mind is a terrible thing to waste)
Comment #91 Removed by Moderator
To: willstayfree
Check out Jim's latest poll on this. Lots of us there also!
LLS
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:32:11 AM PST
by
LibLieSlayer
(Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
To: maica
I have also changed channels. I wonder how many have?
My disappointment in the conservative media is high. I see no reason to continue watching/listening/reading to repetitions of hysterical inaccuracies.
To: cripplecreek
"...we should make it affordable for American companies to run them..." Makes more sense than any statement that has been made in this argument. I have always wondered why it is profitable for the arabs to run a company, and not an American.
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:32:59 AM PST
by
devane617
(An Alley-Cat mind is a terrible thing to waste)
To: Cornpone
You Wrote: ...law means nothing. All it takes is a "Will of Allah" and you can flush your contract down the toilet...and if some Sheik wants something, its obviously the "Will of Allah"...
I'm not sue how long ago you were working in the UAE; however, legal contracts between global companies are now governed by WTO standards including provisions for contract interpretation and arbitration. Your comments have validity for the pre-WTO period. Locally, UAE Labor Law is finally being enforced. Low-paid subcontinent laborers---a huge part of the population---now strike over late payments and the government has been clamping down on unscrupulous UAE owners.
Your Wrote: Oh, and I love the "largely permits religious freedom" part. The whole time I was there I never saw a church nor could I find a Bible in their book stores.
Bibles are now in bookstores. There are at least four churches in Dubai that I know: the Evangelical Community Church, the International Christian Church, the St Thomas Orthodox Church, the St Mary's Catholic Church, and the Holy Trinity Church (Anglican). They perform weddings and funerals besides regular church services. BTW, Christmas here in Dubai is much bigger than Ramadan. Christmas trees everywhere and all the stores, hotels, restaurants and bars make it a big promotion. Caroling is an important part of the tradition.
You Wrote: ..Should we touch on their democratic form of government, free elections, equal treatment of women?..
Working UAE women are now everywhere--light years ahead of Saudi Arabia. Is there harassment? Yes. But it is improving for both ex-pats and locals. There are elections on the local/municipality level with women candidates.
You Wrote: ...What about just the equal treatment of ex-pats? Once you get past your probationary period you're a virtual slave there and can't leave the country without the permission of your Sheik sponsor..
This used to be the case in the past; now, however, you keep your passport and get in and get out of town whenever you wish. I drive across the border to Oman frequently with no problems. In terms of laborers from India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan, passports are still held to prevent illegal immigration. But even here, we see protests and strikes for unscrupulous employers.
In short, times have changed here. The UAE, in particular, is making progress.
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:33:33 AM PST
by
PrinceOfCups
(Just the facts, Ma'am.)
To: syriacus
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:33:51 AM PST
by
Flifuss
(SCE to Aux.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
We should have found a less controversial business deal for our "staunch allies" rather than compromising our sovereignty with this controversial port deal. It was a bad idea and remains a bad idea to provide access to sensitive information, and to provide a potential route for terrorist infiltration. It is not a complex situtation. Give our allies some other lucrative business if we must.
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:34:10 AM PST
by
olezip
To: cripplecreek
Nope, we should make it affordable for American companies to run them. I'm thinking good ole conservative tax cuts. Big ones. Now, there's an idea. You should send it to your Congressman. (seriously)
We'll need to make sure no "Clintonian exemptions" are made for foreign companies.
Well-connected, rich foreigners have a way of "working around" the laws. Like Clinton's friends at COSCO got an exemption even though they were a Chinese state-run company
The U.S. government agreed to exempt [state-owned] COSCO from laws discriminating against state-owned shipping companies.
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:35:22 AM PST
by
syriacus
(Hillary: Millions to China's state-run shippers; not one RED cent to the UAE shippers)
To: Echo Talon
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posted on
02/25/2006 5:35:34 AM PST
by
PrinceOfCups
(Just the facts, Ma'am.)
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