If anyone is going to challenge the Madison Smoke Gnatzies, it'll be Wiggie! Wiggie's is a total Blue Collar Worker bar whose customers are mainly the guys from the meat packing plant (Oscar Mayer) next door. The only way someone would "complain" about this, is if some "Chablis drinking Quiche eater" accidentally wandered in there, which would be odd because it's a pretty depressed part of town.
Good Luck, Wiggie! Even we non-smokers want this stupid ban overturned.
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To: SheLion; Gabz
2 posted on
02/24/2006 1:02:00 PM PST by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
I don't smoke, and rather like being able to go out to the bar and not come home smelling like a chimney.
To: Diana in Wisconsin
lol, run Wiggie,,,,run!!!
4 posted on
02/24/2006 1:06:47 PM PST by
meanie monster
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
On top of this and the increase in the minimum wage, the City of Madison, (AKA Center of Evil Emanations) is proposing mandating all businesses who employ more than 5 people give their workers 9 paid sick days per year.
Is this still America?
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Would it be possible to make Wiggie's into a private club, so that "members" could smoke?
I remember going to a Red Lobster in a dry county in Texas. Beer was not available, but you could joing a club and get a locker, and put your own hootch in it. Just a thought.
Are the fraternal orgs exempt? (VFW, K of C, Moose, etc.)
12 posted on
02/24/2006 1:19:55 PM PST by
sittnick
(There is no salvation in politics.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Public health officers working undercover went into Wiggie's on both occasionsSomething just seems soooooo wrong about this. In America, that is....
18 posted on
02/24/2006 1:26:07 PM PST by
kevao
To: SheLion; Gabz; Wolfie
40 posted on
02/24/2006 1:48:01 PM PST by
freepatriot32
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44 posted on
02/24/2006 1:51:09 PM PST by
freepatriot32
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I think we all sleep better at night knowing local yokel politicians and hatchet men posing as cops and health officials are REALLY worried about the air we breathe and not about grandstanding, revenue and an additional expansion of the welfare/police state.
To: Diana in Wisconsin
If no one complained and the cops just walked in that should mean the law violates the Fourth Amendment against unreasonable search and seizure. No complaint, no justification.
76 posted on
02/24/2006 2:41:27 PM PST by
jjmcgo
To: Diana in Wisconsin
The law changed her in WA Jan 1st, that bans smoking within 25 feet of a building.
The patrons of one of the bars here obeyed that law to the letter, and measured 25 feet from the front door of the bar, and set up a portable smoking room (a large tent) right in the middle of Main St. in "downtown" Vancouver WA.
They didn't last long, but the point wasn't lost on anyone...
90 posted on
02/24/2006 4:31:24 PM PST by
Bean Counter
("Stout Hearts!")
To: Diana in Wisconsin
95 posted on
02/24/2006 4:40:46 PM PST by
Fintan
(See??? Sometimes I do read the articles.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Judst set a smudge pot beside the entrance; anyone making it past that point can decide for himself if he is in the right place.
102 posted on
02/24/2006 5:40:35 PM PST by
Old Professer
(Fix the problem, not the blame!)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Its okay for smokers to break laws but not aliens.
103 posted on
02/24/2006 5:41:31 PM PST by
Raycpa
To: Diana in Wisconsin
You can make your own smudge pot starting with a brass toilet float; unscrew th arm, turn the pot over with the hole pointing up and ream out the hole to fit a 4-6" strip of an old cotton belt, glue a saucer to the bottom of the float with Liquid Nails, soak the belt (wick) in lamp oil, fill the float housing 3/4 full of lamp oil after saoking the wick (belt scrap), place where desired for effect and light.
104 posted on
02/24/2006 5:47:21 PM PST by
Old Professer
(Fix the problem, not the blame!)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
That's apparently what happened in the January incident, when a man lit up a cigarette at the bar and angrily refused to put it out when the bartender told him to. "I'm not putting my people in harm's way," Wiganowsky said. "I've already had a smoking customer throw a glass at a bartender and another throw a burger on the floor. When you shut 'em off, people get aggravated."
That's quite believable considering the threats of violence from the smokers on these threads.
111 posted on
02/24/2006 6:22:58 PM PST by
Moonman62
(Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
To: Diana in Wisconsin; eyespysomething
Dave Wiganowsky, a county supervisor and owner of Wiggie's, 1901 Aberg Ave., is being taken to Madison Municipal Court on two counts of violating the city's smoking ordinance for allegedly letting patrons smoke in his bar on Dec. 17 and Jan. 14
The government should confiscate his business. If a business owner can't be responsible and operate the business within the boundaries of the law, then that person should no longer be allowed to own a business.
As good subjects, we must do what the government tells us to do. The government is only trying to force us to make RIGHT DECISIONS.
126 posted on
02/24/2006 7:21:04 PM PST by
SittinYonder
(That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
127 posted on
02/24/2006 7:24:43 PM PST by
RandallFlagg
(Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
If anyone is going to challenge the Madison Smoke Gnatzies, it'll be Wiggie! Wiggie's is a total Blue Collar Worker bar whose customers are mainly the guys from the meat packing plant (Oscar Mayer) next door. The only way someone would "complain" about this, is if some "Chablis drinking Quiche eater" accidentally wandered in there, which would be odd because it's a pretty depressed part of town.
Good Luck, Wiggie! Even we non-smokers want this stupid ban overturned
I was born in Madison.
I worked at Oscar Mayer when I was still a teenager.
I don't smoke- never did.
BUT- I am disgusted that a bar owner cannot run his place any way he wants. If there is a sign outside that claims that smokers are inside, the prissy quiche lovers can just go elsewhere.
Trust me---there is NO SHORTAGE of bars in Dane County.
To: inneroutlaw
Somebody finally got zotted for being an A-Hole on the smoking threads PING.
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