Wiggie's Busted for Having Smokers (Madison, WI Smoking Ban)

Madison.com ^ | February 24, 2006 | Bill Novak

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

I don't smoke, and rather like being able to go out to the bar and not come home smelling like a chimney.

Who's forcing you to go in there?
Go find a non-smoking establishment or stay home.

[Old Professer]

Judst set a smudge pot beside the entrance; anyone making it past that point can decide for himself if he is in the right place.

[Raycpa]

Its okay for smokers to break laws but not aliens.

[Old Professer]

You can make your own smudge pot starting with a brass toilet float; unscrew th arm, turn the pot over with the hole pointing up and ream out the hole to fit a 4-6" strip of an old cotton belt, glue a saucer to the bottom of the float with Liquid Nails, soak the belt (wick) in lamp oil, fill the float housing 3/4 full of lamp oil after saoking the wick (belt scrap), place where desired for effect and light.

[elkfersupper]

Hon, it's in WISCONSIN, not California.

You forgot. California is the center of the universe.

[eyespysomething]

A bar isn't personal property

Are you in the right place? And by right, I mean right, you know what I mean!

[spinestein]

[Why do you think I own land in Northern Wisconsin, and will be building on it within the next decade?]




So you can smoke your filterless Camels in peace?

[MamaTexan]

You forgot. California is the center of the universe.

OH.......

(smacks self on head)

I forgot.

LOL!

[Moonman62]

A bar is a regulated business. I'm in business and have to conform to a slew of laws and I don't even have a retail facility. All business is regulated by the government, and none are free to flout those laws without reprocussions.

Yep, businesses are treated as public spaces. People should know that before they buy or start one. It's still private property, but not the same as if we lived under anarchy.

[Moonman62]

Re: Oyasuminasai. This is going to be interesting. I predict the name calling starts in Five, Four, Three, Two... ;)

Too late. Nazi was already used three times before your post.

[Moonman62]

That's apparently what happened in the January incident, when a man lit up a cigarette at the bar and angrily refused to put it out when the bartender told him to.

"I'm not putting my people in harm's way," Wiganowsky said. "I've already had a smoking customer throw a glass at a bartender and another throw a burger on the floor. When you shut 'em off, people get aggravated."

That's quite believable considering the threats of violence from the smokers on these threads.

[elkfersupper]

Taglines are normally used on this forum sarcastically, or to generate humor.

Yours appears to be an advocacy statement.

[Moonman62]

My tag line is from Reagan, who also had to explain that he wasn't a Libertarian or Anarchist just because he was for limited government.

[elkfersupper]

I knew Reagan.

Reagan was my friend.

You, sir (or madam) are no Reagan.

[eyespysomething]

The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.

You know that Reagan didn't mean that in a good way, right?

[eyespysomething]

Here's some better Reagan quotes:

I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves.

Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States.

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.

No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!

The most terrifying words in the English langauge are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[Moonman62]

I know what Reagan meant, and at the time it applied very well to the federal government. Reagan cut a lot of regulations, but he didn't cut all of them, and if you look through his record you'll probably find a few new ones he created.

I would rather not regulate smokers, but over the years most have proved to disrespect the person and property of others. Now they are being regulated. That's the way it goes and the trend isn't going to stop unless a viable smokeless and buttless cigarette is invented.

[elkfersupper]

the trend isn't going to stop unless a viable smokeless and buttless cigarette is invented.

So cigars and pipes are okay with you.

We can live with that (but I suspect you would still not be happy).

[countess]

[Why do you think I own land in Northern Wisconsin, and will be building on it within the next decade?]

So you can smoke your filterless Camels in peace?

You made me splooge!

[Moonman62]

If it's quality tobacco, it is a lot more tolerable. A smoker on a thread a few weeks ago said that home rolled cigarettes are a lot better smelling than the commercial ones.

I have a feeling that's why most people assume second-hand smoke is toxic. Anything that smells that bad has to be.