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Neocon architect says: 'Pull it down'
Scotsman ^ | 21 Feb 2006 | Alex Massie

Posted on 02/24/2006 12:27:14 PM PST by SmoothTalker

"NEOCONSERVATISM has failed the United States and needs to be replaced by a more realistic foreign policy agenda, according to one of its prime architects.

Francis Fukuyama, who wrote the best-selling book The End of History and was a member of the neoconservative project, now says that, both as a political symbol and a body of thought, it has "evolved into something I can no longer support". He says it should be discarded on to history's pile of discredited ideologies. "

"In an extract from his forthcoming book, America at the Crossroads, Mr Fukuyama declares that the doctrine "is now in shambles" and that its failure has demonstrated "the danger of good intentions carried to extremes"."

"Mr Fukuyama, one of the US's most influential public intellectuals, concludes that "it seems very unlikely that history will judge either the intervention [in Iraq] itself or the ideas animating it kindly"."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fukuyama; neocons
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I was surprised to see this. I've always been interested in Fukuyama's work.
1 posted on 02/24/2006 12:27:15 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker

I'll take neo-conservatism over liberalism or progressiveism all day long.


2 posted on 02/24/2006 12:29:23 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

How about we just follow the Constitution as it is written (minus the 17th Amendment). Seems to me it would solve alot of our problems.


3 posted on 02/24/2006 12:31:12 PM PST by frankiep
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To: SmoothTalker

Fuky always has been an idiot.

He is and has been way off base.


4 posted on 02/24/2006 12:33:19 PM PST by sd-joe
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To: sd-joe

I keep his book on my nightstand:
It puts me right to sleep.


5 posted on 02/24/2006 12:34:28 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: SmoothTalker

"Mr Fukuyama, one of the US's most influential public intellectuals, concludes that "it seems very unlikely that history will judge either the intervention [in Iraq] itself or the ideas animating it kindly"."


Well Mr. Fukuyama, it all depends on who WRITES that history. The fat Mullah hasn't sung yet.


6 posted on 02/24/2006 12:36:47 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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What's that Francis? History didn't end after all? So sorry you're life's work is a joke.

Anyone who calls themself a "neo-conservative" is a fool, since the term "neo-conservative" is just an epithet used by the media to tar someone they don't like.

It's like someone saying: "I consider myself to be an irresponsible tax-and-spend liberal."

7 posted on 02/24/2006 12:36:54 PM PST by wideawake
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"Fuky always has been an idiot.

He is and has been way off base."

So you are saying you were against the war from the start? Or was he right on that and now he's wrong? Kinda hard to be off base now and have been off base then when he's done a 180 on his views. In any case its pretty hard to call someone with degrees from Cornell and Harvard and a Professorship at Johns Hopkins an idiot. He is a very smart man who has been one of the major thinkers for our side over the last few years.


8 posted on 02/24/2006 12:37:40 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker

you're = your.


9 posted on 02/24/2006 12:37:42 PM PST by wideawake
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To: SmoothTalker

is this the same guy who wrote about "the end of history"?


10 posted on 02/24/2006 12:38:02 PM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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Iraq had WMD. They are now in Syria, but they used to be in the hands of Sadaam Hussein.

Iraq is real close to having nuclear weapons.

Scenario A: US does not invade Iraq. In the first decade of the 21st century, both Iraq and Iran have weapons of mass destruction and either fight each other (with great risk of a wider conflagration) or else they market these wares to whomever want them.

Scenario B: US invades Iraq, removes Hussein, ensures that Iraq no longer has WMD and sets up military bases as close to Iran as possible so that if future action is required, we are well-positioned and ready for anything.

I guess Fukuyama preferred Scenario A.

11 posted on 02/24/2006 12:38:19 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (E)
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To: SmoothTalker

I should have read the article before commenting.


13 posted on 02/24/2006 12:39:06 PM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: wideawake

No, actually, neo-conservative is an academic term to describe a political movement that isn't exactly new. Ronald Reagan is largely considered the father of neo-conservativism.

Think of it this way:

neo-conservative = Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush

palio-conservative = Robert Taft (Senator from Ohio in the 40's & 50's), Pat Buchannan

Of course, these lines aren't always clear cut, and there's ambiguity both in the definitions and who would fall under them, but if you get what I'm saying, you get the basic idea.


14 posted on 02/24/2006 12:40:38 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: SmoothTalker

How come everytime you read a news article about neoconservatism, it's got a new architect?


15 posted on 02/24/2006 12:41:00 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: My2Cents

http://www.wesjones.com/eoh.htm


16 posted on 02/24/2006 12:41:17 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: My2Cents
I should have read the article before commenting.

 

Geez, don't do that...you'll make the rest of us look bad.


17 posted on 02/24/2006 12:41:49 PM PST by Fintan (See??? Sometimes I do read the articles.)
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To: sd-joe

"Always an idiot"

How is that possible---he was either right before, or he is right now...which is it?


18 posted on 02/24/2006 12:41:49 PM PST by Tulane
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To: SmoothTalker
He's projecting what he would like the present to be, but that day is in the future.

You can't omit the reality of the present to formulate policy. You can only try to create a better future.

This is why he is wrong IMHO.

19 posted on 02/24/2006 12:42:01 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: frankiep
(minus the 17th Amendment)

I'll second that. And third and fourth it too!! Worst piece of legislation to ever hit a republic.

20 posted on 02/24/2006 12:42:56 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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