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Family Incomes Slipped In 1st Part Of Decade ("Rich getting richer" alert)
The Associated Press ^ | Feb 24, 2006 | MARTIN CRUTSINGER

Posted on 02/24/2006 6:24:09 AM PST by Sam's Army

WASHINGTON - After the booming 1990s when incomes and stock prices were soaring, this decade has been less of a thrill ride for most American families.

Average incomes after adjusting for inflation actually fell from 2001 to 2004, and the growth in net worth was the weakest in a decade, the Federal Reserve reported Thursday.

Many families were struggling in the aftermath of the 2001 recession and the bursting of the stock market bubble in 2000, the Fed's latest Survey of Consumer Finances showed. The comprehensive look at household balance sheets comes every three years.

Average family incomes, after adjusting for inflation, fell to $70,700 in 2004, a drop of 2.3 percent when compared with 2001.

That was the weakest showing since a decline of 11.3 percent from 1989 to 1992, a period that also covered a recession.

The average incomes had soared by 17.3 percent in the 1998-2001 period and 12.3 percent from 1995 to 1998 as the country enjoyed the longest economic expansion in history.

The median family income, the point where half the families made more and half made less, rose a tiny 1.6 percent to $43,200 in 2004 compared with 2001.

Economists said the weakness in the most recent period was understandable given the loss of 2.7 million jobs from early 2001 through August 2003, when the country was struggling with sizable layoffs caused by the recession, the terrorist attacks and corporate accounting scandals.

The weak income and the stock market decline in the early part of the decade, which wiped out $7 trillion of paper wealth, had an adverse impact on family balance sheets.

Net worth, the difference between assets and liabilities such as loans, rose by 6.3 percent in the 2001-04 period to an average of $448,200. That gain was far below the huge increases of 25.6 percent from 1995 to 1998 and 28.7 percent from 1998 to 2001, increases that were fueled by soaring stock prices.

The 2001-04 performance was the worst since net worth actually declined by 9.9 percent in the 1989-92 period.

The report showed that the slowdown in the accumulation of net worth would have been even more sizable except for the fact that homeowners have enjoyed big gains in the value of their homes in recent years.

The gap between the very wealthy and other income groups widened during the period.

The top 10 percent of households saw their net worth rise by 6.1 percent to an average of $3.11 million while the bottom 10 percent suffered a decline from a net worth in which their assets equaled their liabilities in 2001 to owing $1,400 more than their total assets in 2004.

"This is the continuing story of the rich getting richer," said David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor's in New York. "Clearly, the gains in wealth are going to the top end."

Democrats used the new report to blast President Bush's economic policies, contending it would be wrong to make permanent his tax cuts, which primarily benefit the wealthy.

"These statistics show why, even though GDP is rising, most people do not feel better off," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.

The Fed survey found that the percentage of Americans who owned stocks, either directly or through a mutual fund, fell by 3.3 percentage points to 48.6 percent in 2004, down from 51.9 percent in 2001.

Analysts said this was an indication that investors burned by plunging stock prices in the decade's early years have been leery about getting back into the market.

The share of Americans' financial assets invested in stocks dipped to 17.6 percent in 2004, down from 21.7 percent in 2001.

Reflecting the housing boom, the share of assets made up by home ownership rose to 50.3 percent in 2004, compared with 46.9 percent in 2001.

The Fed survey found that debts as a percent of total assets rose to 15 percent in 2004, up from 12.1 percent in 2001. Mortgages to finance home purchases were by far the biggest share of total debt at 75.2 percent in 2004, unchanged from the 2001 level.

There was concern that families might start to feel even more squeezed as the cost of financing their debts increases along with rising interest rates.

Although surging home values have supported consumer spending in recent years, analysts worry about the economic impact if, as expected, the home price surge begins to slow this year.

"This report shows a race between factors boosting net worth, such as home ownership, and factors pushing the other way, such as weak wage growth," said Jared Bernstein, senior economist at the liberal Economic Policy Institute, a Washington think tank.


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To: nopardons
They find the pope to be VERY fallible.

I posted this text not because of the source but because it stands on its own. It states obvious moral truths, easy to see for every Christian and even for most on non-Christians!

You can't think of anything better, but you are a Catholic.

Can you show me what is specifically Catholic about the quotes I posted? I bet you cannot!

Why is that when the freemarketeers cannot find counter arguments they attack the sources or authors? It happens almost every time, either the source is too left wing, or too right wing, or the author has marital problems or warts or what else.

The best of all is the claim that the author is question is "VERY fallible"! Not like Ayn Rand or Milton Friedman :)

321 posted on 03/02/2006 6:41:04 AM PST by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: A. Pole
I despise Rand and believe that every human being is fallible.

You always use religious tracts, as refutation. It works for you, I guess; but no, it really doesn't work for everyone.

322 posted on 03/02/2006 5:22:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
[nopardons:] You always use religious tracts, as refutation.

Actually this encyclical contains many elements which are not religious - like XX century phenomenology, axiology of Max Scheller, personalism, experience of struggle against Communism (Solzhenitsyn, Kolakowski etc) and more. Those elements are not always obvious but can be seen if you study the topic.

Karol Wojtyla was one the people who overthrew Communism with the power of ideas. Free market ideology is too obsolete and crude to be useful in modern world. Already in time of Dickens it was an object of well deserved scorn.

323 posted on 03/02/2006 8:23:51 PM PST by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: A. Pole

Free trade was an "object of scorn" to KARL MAX; so was religion.


324 posted on 03/02/2006 8:52:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; A. Pole
Actually, Karl Marx was an advocate of free trade:

Karl Marx & Frederick Engels, Collected Works, Volume 6, Lawrence & Wishart, London 1976:

{p. 450} Karl Marx

SPEECH ON THE QUESTION OF FREE TRADE DELIVERED TO THE DEMOCRATIC ASSOCIATION OF BRUSSELS AT ITS PIBLIC MEETING OF JANUARY 9, 1848

Gentlemen, - The Repeal of the Corn Laws in England is the greatest triumph of Free Trade in the nineteenth century. In every country where manufacturers discuss Free Trade, they have in mind chiefly Free Trade in corn or raw material generally. To burden foreign corn with protective duties is infamous, it is to speculate on the hunger of the people.

Cheap food, high wages, for this alone the English Free Traders have spent millions, and their enthusiasm has already infected their Continental brethren. And, generally speaking, all those who advocate Free Trade do so in the interests of the working class.'

325 posted on 03/03/2006 3:41:19 AM PST by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: nopardons
Free trade was an "object of scorn" to KARL MAX; so was religion.

Really? Where did you get this idea? Karl Marx like free trade - he wanted capitalism to become a global system and world revolution at the end. He has seen freemarketeers as his helpers.

Free market ideology was object of scorn for to Charles Dickens. His books have a lot of funny sarcastic passages at the expense of freemarketeers. It was Dickens and people like him who prevented the Communist revolution in the West by encouraging preventive reforms.

Too bad Russian upper class did not pay attention.

326 posted on 03/03/2006 4:48:11 AM PST by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: A. Pole
Karol Wojtyla was one the people who overthrew Communism with the power of ideas. Free market ideology is too obsolete and crude to be useful in modern world. Already in time of Dickens it was an object of well deserved scorn.

I know I said this in another thread, but a pure free market ideology is as obsolete as a buggy whip. Man, I've always wanted to say that back at them for the longest time. B-)
327 posted on 03/03/2006 5:14:45 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Michael Savage for President - 2008!)
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To: A. Pole
Too bad Russian upper class did not pay attention.

True, I know it from my own family's history on my father's side. My great, great grandfather in Russia took part in the Bolshevik Revolutions of 1905 and by 1917, he was a Red Army general in one of the Soviets. From what my grandmother told me, his grandaughter, he was friends with Lenin and one of the inner circle when the USSR was founded, but that part needs to be verified if it can be. Heck, my grandmother's maiden name is a corruption of the word, "Bolshevik," in Russian. His son, however, he did say to him that it would be a good idea for him to get out of the mess over there and go to America, "you don't want part of this."

I do understand and have sympathies for both sides, I think what was done to the Tsar and his family was very cruel and inhuman, I think the Tsar did get bad advice from the people under him but the general population in Russia was having a hard time of it.

I love to use science fiction from time to time to illustrate my points so here goes: I remember Jedi Master Yoda in Episode I of Star Wars put it this way, "fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to more suffering." I think the Bolshevik Revolution is a good illustration of that along with a lot of other examples I could use.
328 posted on 03/03/2006 5:30:15 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Michael Savage for President - 2008!)
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To: A. Pole; nopardons; sittnick
Karl Marx like free trade - he wanted capitalism to become a global system and world revolution at the end.

Your buddy Karl thought free trade would lead to the revolution. Do you agree?

329 posted on 03/03/2006 7:55:40 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (A.Pole "I escaped Communism, but think we need more of it in America. Because Communism works")
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To: sittnick; 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot; Mase
You've got to read the whole speech. If you do, you will find that he was terribly conflicted on this subject. His conclusions were totally wrong about the free movement of capital...the basic reason why in the later portion of his speech, the whole concept of sovereign political boundaries being dismantled leading toward an uprising of "the worker" will not ever happen. As you know, even the average worker has partial ownership today and is, in part, technically a capitalist. Marx was so short-sighted that he just happened to stumble across a good conclusion even though the circumstances behind the analysis was way off the 'Marx'.
330 posted on 03/03/2006 9:45:41 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (The Far Right and the Far Left both disdain markets. If the Left ever finds God, the GOP is toast.)
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To: Nowhere Man
Nowhere Man (Michael Savage for President - 2008!)

There's a lot said there, without realizing it, perhaps.

331 posted on 03/03/2006 9:48:29 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (The Far Right and the Far Left both disdain markets. If the Left ever finds God, the GOP is toast.)
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To: sittnick; A. Pole; LowCountryJoe
Actually, Karl Marx was an advocate of free trade:

I find it entertaining when people her try to convince us that Karl Marx was in favor of free market capitalism based on the short quote at the end of his speech. During the entire speech he speaks to the fact that he despises free trade and the people who support it. To your point Joe, I have never understood why so many choose to ignore the rest of this speech in favor of that one line at the end.

Marx wasn't an economist but he most certainly supported totalitarianism. Marx did not support free trade, he was for it only because he believed it would lead to the destruction of capitalism. If anyone here believes free trade is harmful to our society, then they share the same beliefs and economics as Karl Marx. Having a lot in common with Karl Marx, by being anti-capitalism, is not something conservatives should strive for - although many here appear to be trying.

332 posted on 03/03/2006 10:34:55 AM PST by Mase
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To: Toddsterpatriot

:-)


333 posted on 03/03/2006 3:00:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Sam's Army

If the average fell and the median rose the bottom half is getting richer


334 posted on 03/03/2006 3:08:38 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: A. Pole
Charles Dickens was a BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL and in real life ( outside of his books, dear ), an attention seeking, ego driven, pompous man, who treated his wife and children badly.

There is NOTHING in his works, that is particularly anti-freetrade and he had nothing whatsoever to do with preventing the Communist revolution in the West! HE WAD DEAD, WHEN THE BOLSHEVICS TOOK OVER RUSSIA!

You can lay a lot of things at Charlie's feet ( exposing the boarding schools which were really just warehouses for unwanted children, originating what we all think Christmas celebrations are, beginning THE CLIFF HANGER, and a few other things like that ), but "preventing a Communist revolution in the West, isn't one of them!

335 posted on 03/03/2006 3:10:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Mase
I find it entertaining when people her try to convince us that Karl Marx was in favor of free market capitalism

No one here said that. One poster claimed that Karl Marx was against free trade, I simply posted the fact that he wasn't. The line I cited was in the middle of the speech.

Marx did not support free trade, he was for it only because he believed it would lead to the destruction of capitalism.

Being "for it" is the same as "supporting it", even if his reasons are different.
336 posted on 03/03/2006 3:59:13 PM PST by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; ...
[Toddsterpatriot :]
Karl [Marx] thought free trade would lead to the revolution. Do you agree?

Glad that you asked. Yes, but as one part of the whole process. Free trade/globalization was to integrate world economy into one whole, leading to the increase in productivity, lowering of wages and concentrating the wealth in the hands of the few winners of the global Monopoly game.

According to Marx it would make the very capitalism obsolete the same way as feudal aristocratic system became obsolete because of its victory (establishing order, secure trade, cities and central government with stable currency make knights superfluous and merchants powerful).

Marxist teaching was that the mature global capitalism will enter the dead end street when it will create the overabundance of goods while the workers will be in large part redundant and unemployed. This will lead to the contradiction between the abundance in the midst of general poverty.

According to the classical Marxism (as opposed to Leninism/Stalinism) the socialism will provide the solution using the tools late capitalism created.

Conservative response was to protect national borders and economies (tariffs), secure decent living for the working class (unions, safety nets etc), anti-trust laws and so on ...

But after fall of Soviet system (which according to the classical Marxism was premature as it started in backward countries without developed capitalism) the right wing of Western elites forgot all that and decided to move back to XIX century. (See my tagline)

The left wing very likely enjoys the gradual sliding of mankind into the revolutionary trap.

The Christian social doctrine, being truly conservative, is seen both by free market right and socialist left as a backward obstacle to progress.

337 posted on 03/03/2006 6:34:15 PM PST by A. Pole (Proverbs 26:11: "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.")
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To: A. Pole
The problem is going to reach it's head within a generation or so. Outsourcing is not going to be the only problem. Automation, robotics are going to basically make those with an IQ of 100 and below superfluous. I think McDonalds will probably stop having human workers except for a manager in the stores by 2020.

There will be a large idle class of people. It will grow. I seriously doubt that there will be any way to avoid it. There will not by jobs that people without any specialized irreplacable skills can hold.

We will get socialism, and you won't be able to blame people if things don't change. If you tell most people that there is no work for them, and they have the power to vote the money away from the technology, multinational haves, it will be in their short term economic interest to massively redistribute it. We are marching towards our doom, and just don't know it.

338 posted on 03/03/2006 6:52:11 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
Automation, robotics are going to basically make those with an IQ of 100 and below superfluous

Not so.
339 posted on 03/03/2006 7:39:14 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: dogbyte12
We are marching towards our doom, and just don't know it.

I think most of the "leaders" know it, they just don't care as long as they get theirs NOW, and to hell with what happens to America tomorrow.

It's a tragedy that America cannot produce some intelligent leaders. The intelligent ones don't have enough money to get elected to the globalist boy's club.

340 posted on 03/03/2006 7:40:38 PM PST by janetgreen (Washington fiddles while America is invaded!)
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