[editor-surveyor]

I'm saying that essentially all of the fossilized remains are from the deaths that occurred during the first day or two of the eruption of hot water from below. The carbonates dissolved by that initial surge are responsible for most of the cementation that has been observed.

[VadeRetro]

All of the fossilized remains? Including the Cretaceous dino-bird fossils buried by dry-land volcanic ash? Including all the fossilized surface features (scorpion tracks, etc.) buried at various different layers at one site, like the Grand Canyon?

If all the world's underwater, all the lavas are pillow lavas. If all the world's underwater, raindrop imprints in mud can't harden before the next layer buries them. If all the world's underwater, vertical erosion features can't form because they haven't hardened enough to stay vertical. If all the world's underwater, what are all those buried evidences of glacial scraping?

I mean, get real.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

e-s is referring to the flood of cement that Genesis describes raining down from heaven to engulf bottom-dwelling ocean creatures on the world's highest mountain tops as the creatures simultaneously turn to stone.

You haven't been reading the Darwin Central Guide on creation science.

[Potowmack]

I'm saying that essentially all of the fossilized remains are from the deaths that occurred during the first day or two of the eruption of hot water from below.

Two questions:

1) How do you explain the fact that our fossil record is pretty "neat?" i.e, there are no rabbits mixed in with Stegasori.

2) When was this flood supposed to have occurred?

[null and void]

I'm saying that essentially all of the fossilized remains are from the deaths that occurred during the first day or two of the eruption of hot water from below. The carbonates dissolved by that initial surge are responsible for most of the cementation that has been observed.

Kewl! And very testable. Have you, or do you know, or even know of anyone who has ever made a 'fossil' by this method?

Easy enough to set up, all one would need is some boiling hot mineral water and a frog...

For that matter, areas around geysers should be rich in 'modern fossils' Have you ever seen any???

[blowfish]

I'm saying that essentially all of the fossilized remains are from the deaths that occurred during the first day or two of the eruption of hot water from below. The carbonates dissolved by that initial surge are responsible for most of the cementation that has been observed.

Are you serious?
Please tell me you're not serious.
You do realize how many holes there are in your hypothesis, I hope.

[Junior]

I'm saying that essentially all of the fossilized remains are from the deaths that occurred during the first day or two of the eruption of hot water from below. The carbonates dissolved by that initial surge are responsible for most of the cementation that has been observed.

I'm sorry, but I have to ping two of FR's resident geologists to this one. They need a good laugh once in awhile...

[Junior]

I'm saying that essentially all of the fossilized remains are from the deaths that occurred during the first day or two of the eruption of hot water from below. The carbonates dissolved by that initial surge are responsible for most of the cementation that has been observed.

I'm sorry, but I have to ping two of FR's resident geologists to this one. They need a good laugh once in awhile...

[Ichneumon]

I'm saying that essentially all of the fossilized remains are from the deaths that occurred during the first day or two of the eruption of hot water from below. The carbonates dissolved by that initial surge are responsible for most of the cementation that has been observed.

ROFL! Little do you know how little you know. I'm just *dying* to hear you explain how hot water managed to neatly sort layers by nuclear isotope content, so as to give the false *appearance* of age-related superposition (i.e. newer strata on top, older strata on the bottom). We'll wait.

After you've cracked that nut you can work on these massive problems for your bizarrely unworkable scenario:

Problems with a Global Flood

"Polystrate" Fossils

Review of John Woodmorappe's "Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study"

Dinosaur Prints in Coal

The Geologic Column and its Implications for the Flood

Is the Devonian Chattanooga Shale Really a Volcanic Ash-Fall Deposit?

Geology in Error?: The Lewis Thrust

Thrust Faults and the Lewis Overthrust

What Would We Expect to Find if the World had Flooded?

Problems with Walter Brown's Hydroplate Theory

Burrows in the Orkney Islands contradict the Global Flood

Why The Flood Can't Be Global

The Fish is Served With a Delicate Creamy Mercury Sauce

The Letter The Creation Research Society Quarterly Didn't Want You to See

Microfossil Stratigraphy Presents Problems for the Flood

Why Would the Flood Sort Animals by Cell Type?

Fleeing from the Flood

Isotopic Sorting and the Noah's Flood Model

Evidence from the Orkney Islands Against a Global Flood

While the Flood Rages, Termites Dig, Dinosaurs Dance and Cicadas Sing

More Nonsense on "TRUE.ORIGINS": Jonathan Sarfati's Support Of Flood Geology

Why Geology Shows Sedimentation to Be too Slow for a Global Flood

Creationist "Flood Geology" Versus Common Sense -- Or Reasons why "Flood Geology" was abandoned in the mid-1800s by Christian men of science

If you ever managed to resolve all of those apparently insurmountable problems for the creationist version of a flood scenario, feel free to come back and present us with the results of your research. Make sure that your thesis is consistent with the totality of the evidence, however, and not just one tiny corner of it in isolation while violating most of the rest (a common creationist tactic).

Of course, you've already been informed of these issues (where the real-world evidence severely clashes with your scenario) here, here, and here, so why do you blithely repeat the same claim as if you had never been informed of its overwhelming problems?

[b_sharp]

"I'm saying that essentially all of the fossilized remains are from the deaths that occurred during the first day or two of the eruption of hot water from below. The carbonates dissolved by that initial surge are responsible for most of the cementation that has been observed.

The mechanics of flood geology, including Brown's, is not based on the physical laws as we know them today and has been soundly debunked multiple times.

Creation science can not explained such simple observations as angular unconformities nor the sequence of fossils in the strata. Nor has it dealt with the consistency of radiometric dating at separate sites.

How would 'sorting' explain the case where two different organisms (eg. bivalves) populate two different layers but those same layers contain only one species of a third organism (such as a trilobyte)?

Creation science has to twist, stretch and fold most of the laws of physics just to fit the evidence to their conclusions. They do not go where the evidence leads but lead the evidence to the result they desire.

[whattajoke]

I'm saying that essentially all of the fossilized remains are from the deaths that occurred during the first day or two of the eruption of hot water from below. The carbonates dissolved by that initial surge are responsible for most of the cementation that has been observed.

So... was this blast of hot water "from below" from, y'know... from REALLY below? That would sort of make sense because as we all know, fossils are most certainly the devil's handiwork; the way they sorta contradict the literal reading of the bible and all. Interesting thought. Satan shot shot water up from hell cementing the world and creating all the fossils. Mm-hm.

[Stultis]

I'm saying that essentially all of the fossilized remains are from the deaths that occurred during the first day or two of the eruption of hot water from below.

There are too many fossils for all the organisms represented to have been alive on earth at the same time. Some observations on that from the late Robert Schadewald:

[i] The Karoo Formation [in Southern Africa] contains the remains of some 800 billion vertebrate animals. If one conservatively estimates that the Karoo Formation contains a mere 1% of the vertebrate fossils on earth, this means that before the flood the earth would have held 2100 vertebrates of varying sizes per acre.

[ii] If marine fossils comprise 0.1% of the volume of sedimentary rock, this means that before the Flood these organisms would have covered the earth to a depth of at least 1.5 feet.