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Treasuries fall as five-year auction deemed a flop - No One Wants US's Debt?
yahoo.reuters.com ^ | 2/23/06 | Pedro Nicolaci da Costa

Posted on 02/23/2006 11:18:59 AM PST by tmp02

This is not a good sign for stocks, is it?

..."It was a terrible auction," summed up one trader at a U.S. primary dealer. "The bid-to-cover stank, the indirect bid was bad -- I would be surprised if the market manages to rally from here."

... Worse yet, indirect bidders bought a meager $2.96 billion or 21.1 percent of the deal, compared with last year's average 38.13 percent. That left dealers holding the bag with $10.72 billion or 76.6 percent.

Signs of a tightening labor market had taken an early toll on Treasuries, with jobless claims receding to levels consistent with solid employment growth.

Claims fell by 20,000 to 278,000, when analysts had looked for a slight increase.

Given the Fed's worry that the economy is running near full capacity and could therefore generate more troublesome inflation, the data suggested the central bank will continue to tighten monetary policy.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: debt; econnuttery; fearmongering
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1 posted on 02/23/2006 11:19:02 AM PST by tmp02
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To: tmp02

Hello inflation, hello higher interest rate and hello housing bubble deflating...


2 posted on 02/23/2006 11:21:34 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: tmp02

So we're doomed?


3 posted on 02/23/2006 11:22:10 AM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: tmp02
puhleeze, let's not rush to judgment as we seem so wont to do...

The bid to cover on the recent 30 year auction was 2+:1, way higher than average and higher than expected.

Plenty of people wanted that debt. They always want our debt, because we service it, and we do that because we are the most productive nation on earth.

4 posted on 02/23/2006 11:22:38 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (i'd rather hunt with Cheney than drive with Kennedy)
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To: 2banana

5 posted on 02/23/2006 11:23:32 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Darkwolf377

We're not doomed.. but pissing on wealthy nations like the UAE isn't encouraging. Foreign investors are big investors in US treasuries.


6 posted on 02/23/2006 11:23:46 AM PST by iPod Shuffle
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To: the invisib1e hand

Isn't the yield curve inverted, making these short term notes more attractive than the long bonds?


7 posted on 02/23/2006 11:24:24 AM PST by Pondman88
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To: Pondman88

Yes, for thw SHORT TERM!


8 posted on 02/23/2006 11:25:28 AM PST by steve86 (@)
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To: the invisib1e hand

What does this mean?


9 posted on 02/23/2006 11:25:54 AM PST by tmp02
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To: tmp02
So, fewer people want to buy bonds so the interest rate goes up which is bad. But if more people wanted to buy bonds the medium term interest rate would go down and the yield curve would be inverted, which is bad.

Thus if anything happens, it is bad.

10 posted on 02/23/2006 11:25:58 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Next Olympics I want wide track bobsledding. Four sleds on the track at once - like Ben Hur on ice.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

"we do that because we are the most productive nation on earth.
"

With only about 10% of our economy producing anything and China producing more and more every year, that is a sort sighted view of our economic future. China has 300 million people of middle class status whose status is imprving every year.


11 posted on 02/23/2006 11:26:00 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: KarlInOhio
"Thus if anything happens, it is bad."

LOL! You sound like those talking heads on TV telling us why the stock market dropped.

12 posted on 02/23/2006 11:28:40 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: CodeToad

We have a president who has not vetored a single spending bill since he took office six years ago and a Congress that spends money wildly on idiot projects while private funds must be raised for a Veteran's hospital for our Iraq wounded. We have skyhigh oil prices and a congress that bans offshore drilling in some of the best areas for oil. We have untold trillions in future debts for entitlement programs that are almost completely unfunded and you are surprised that few foreigners want our debt?


13 posted on 02/23/2006 11:30:31 AM PST by laconic
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To: the invisib1e hand
because we service it

The interesting thing is that when that 30 year debt comes due...at the current rate of inflation...it will only cost the govmint 60 cents on the dollar to pay it back on face...

Looks like the Ten Year is going retest the low again pretty soon...


14 posted on 02/23/2006 11:30:37 AM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: iPod Shuffle
We're not doomed.. but pissing on wealthy nations like the UAE isn't encouraging.

So we're to grovel before despots? Please. We used to be the innovators. We use to be the inventors and science leaders. Do we think we can still lead the world being a nation of "managers" when all the technological and manufacturing base is located elsewhere?

We've mortgaged the country to foreigners. Those who hold our debt, hold our future. An economy dominated by foreign investment is a third-world economy.

15 posted on 02/23/2006 11:31:05 AM PST by ziggygrey
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To: KarlInOhio
" ... Thus if anything happens, it is bad."


Unless there is a Democrat (reads ... enemy of the U.S.A.) Party in the Whitehouse, which won't be for the forseeable future, which means you are right. ;)






16 posted on 02/23/2006 11:32:02 AM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: 2banana
Hello inflation, hello higher interest rate and hello housing bubble deflating...

Hello to the reality that you cannot borrow your way to success.

17 posted on 02/23/2006 11:32:02 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: tmp02

There was a guest speaker on Coast last night who said something like a seismic shift in world economic dominance is scheduled (by whom???) for about a month from now. For now we have signs, portents, and omens, maybe some entrails.


18 posted on 02/23/2006 11:33:30 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: ziggygrey
We've mortgaged the country to foreigners. Those who hold our debt, hold our future. An economy dominated by foreign investment is a third-world economy.

Most of the foreign debt buyers have been countries who recycle their trade surpluss...

I would rather have them hold debt than our assets...and I would rather have no debt...

All that money has to go somewhere...

19 posted on 02/23/2006 11:34:24 AM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: antaresequity
Looks like a double bottom "W" .

That's a good time to buy.

20 posted on 02/23/2006 11:34:57 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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