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It looks like the Left WON'T be having a Merry Fitzmas.
1 posted on 02/23/2006 7:56:56 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix

He can't show what doesn't exist.............


2 posted on 02/23/2006 7:59:03 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: PJ-Comix

Ha! Ha! Another lump of coal for the DUmmies!


3 posted on 02/23/2006 7:59:52 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: PJ-Comix

i-i'll have a blu-u-ue Fitzmas.....without youuuuuu....


4 posted on 02/23/2006 8:00:18 AM PST by NRA1995 (If feminists are so smart, why do they need masturbation workshops?)
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To: Howlin

Libby ping.


6 posted on 02/23/2006 8:00:40 AM PST by Peach
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To: PJ-Comix

Can Libby sue for Prosecutorial abuse?


7 posted on 02/23/2006 8:03:26 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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For some legal beagle type, but if your car is searched and the cop did not have reasonable grounds to think you had committed a crime, wouldn't the evidence be tossed out? And would the same legal reasoning be in play here? If there was no crime in the first place, how could any fruit of the poison tree be used to convict someone?


8 posted on 02/23/2006 8:04:42 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Dog Gone; atlaw

For some reading on another topic I thought you might find interesting. :-)


10 posted on 02/23/2006 8:10:06 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: PJ-Comix

There used to be a show called"In Living Color" They did a Homey the Clown skit where Homey had this sock that he beat kids over the head with.

It seems obvious Homey beat Fitz a little too hard.


11 posted on 02/23/2006 8:10:09 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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Ummmm.hey Fitzi baby, you don't get it do you? You have to show cause, not just conjecture here. You don't get it both ways either. If the premise of your indictment is Valerie's secret cover, then PROVE that Libby busted it. If not, can the indictment and save us taxpayers some dough. ( I thought this guy was supposed to be really smart!)
12 posted on 02/23/2006 8:10:23 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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Extremely difficult to prove a negative, "I did not beat my wife, in fact, I do not have to prove that I did not beat a wife, as I have no wife."


15 posted on 02/23/2006 8:12:58 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower and avid ironer)
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Fitzy brought it up in order to influence a potential jury so why the problem now?
16 posted on 02/23/2006 8:13:16 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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All this from the so-called "Prosecutor's prosecutor"???

The man whose very essence, whose very being, is the Platonic essence itself of "prosecutorial justice" ???

Maybe all those Demmy exhortations (threats?) that one could not POSSIBLY impugn the integrity of this uber-prosecutor, that here was a man above the fray, so to speak, were for a very good reason... that being that he is politically unhinged, pursuing a fantasy crime with evidence that doesnt even rise to the level of "flimsy", and that he is about as impartial and as fair as the cackling hyena known as Mary Mapes.


23 posted on 02/23/2006 8:19:51 AM PST by UncleSamUSA (the land of the free and the home of the brave)
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To: PJ-Comix; K4Harty

ping for read at work.


24 posted on 02/23/2006 8:20:26 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (My pug is on her war footing.)
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More non-findings about Fitz's non-case about the non-story.

Good taxpayer money went for this non-investigation.

Pttui!


26 posted on 02/23/2006 8:21:30 AM PST by prairiebreeze (I support the troops and the mission.)
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Patrick Fitzgerald—A Tale of Two Cases and a Congressman

The general media view of Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor who has indicted “Scooter” Libby for perjury, obstruction of justice, and false statements in the Plame leak investigation is that he is an incorruptible “prosecutor’s prosecutor.” A closer look at an earlier communications interception case involving Senator Tom Harkin (D, Iowa) and the Libby case, a curious recommendation for him made by Representative Gerald Nadler (D, NY), and his own background all suggest something far different and more sinister.

I. THE TWO CASES

According to an October 22, 2005 NewsMax article, http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/22/142646.shtml Fitzgerald. was the U.S. Attorney assigned to investigate a communications interception case where operatives of U.S. Senator Tom Harkin (D, Iowa) arranged secretly to tape a strategy meeting involving Harkin’s Republican opponent, Rep Greg Ganske. Brian Conley, a former aide to Harkin, made the recording while attending the meeting at the request of Rafael Ruthchild, a Harkin operative, and returned the recording and recorder to Ruthchild. When the Ganske campaign learned of this, they complained to Polk County, Iowa Attorney John Sarcone and to Fitzgerald, the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois. Conley and Ruthchild both refused to participate in the investigation and Ruthchild resigned from her job with Harkin.

The Federal statute in this case, 18 USC § 2511(1)(a) specifically prohibits any person from intercepting “any wire, oral or electronic communication[.]” This taping of the Ganske meeting appears to have been such an illegal interception. Nevertheless, the noted NewsMax article reported that Fitzgerald, after about a two week investigation, “announced there was no violation of federal law by Harkin’s team.” Fitzgerald apparently did not even interview Harkin, who “staunchly denied he had any prior knowledge of the possibility of a criminal tape plot.”

This starkly contrasts with Fitzgerald’s investigation of the Plame leak case. Here the alleged underlying violation was of either the 1992 Intelligence Identities Protection Act (the Identities Act) or the Espionage Act. The Identities Act prohibits disclosure of the identities of “covert” CIA agents, 50 USC § 421, and narrowly defines a “covert” CIA agent as an individual whose “identity . . . is classified information and . . . who is serving outside the United States or has within the last five years served outside the United States[.]” The Espionage Act, 18 USC § 793 is equally narrow in that it applies only to a specifically listed set of disclosures, not including the disclosure of covert agents’ identities and prohibits such disclosure only if it is done “with intent or reason to believe the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation[.]”

Plame wasn’t a “covert” agent since she had returned to the United States more than five years before her identity was disclosed. There couldn’t have been a violation of the Espionage Act because “covert” agents’ identities aren’t covered by that act and any disclosure of her identity was to protect the United States from the damage she and her husband were doing to it, not with intent to use the knowledge to injure the United States or help a foreign power.

Nevertheless, Fitzgerald went ahead with the Plame investigation without any reasonable chance of discovering any underlying statutory violation while he dropped the Harkin investigation, in spite of clear appearances that there was an underlying violation. Why??

II. THE CONGRESSMAN

Enter Gerald Nadler (D, NY), a far left Democratic congressman from New York, who distinguished himself with his passionate defense of ex-president Clinton during Clinton’s impeachment by the U.S. House of Representatives. Subsequently, Mr. Nadler enthusiastically supported of Hillary Clinton in her run for the NY Senate seat she now holds. He can be anticipated to do his all supporting her in her likely run for the presidency in 2008.

Mr. Nadler has apparently been watching Patrick Fitzgerald’s handling of the Harkin and Plame cases and approved of the way he’s done both or, at least, Fitzgerald’s handling of the Plame investigation. Once again our old friend NewsMax has done some worthwhile digging and gone to Mr. Nadler’s website. On October 22, 2005 NewsMax, http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/22/234208.shtml reported that “Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee are so pleased with reports that Leakgate prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is about to indict senior White House officials that they want him to lead an impeachment investigation into whether President Bush lied to Congress about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.” According to the same report, Nadler has written to the Justice Department and requested it to expand Fitzgerad’s investigation.

All this leads an inquiring mind to ask why Nadler, a strong supporter of Hillary in all her endeavors, is such a strong supporter of Fitzgerald. Is it possible that he knows something about Fitrzgerald, or ethically dubious communications involving Fitzgerald, that have not been publicly disclosed?

Fitzgerald’s background and general present situation suggestion that’s exactly the explanation for Nadler’s view.

Fitzgerald turned 45 on December 22, 2005. He has served a little more than four years as US Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois, having been confirmed on October 24, 2001. Before then his entire career was spent in various positions in the Justice Department, meaning he is now and has always been a man of no more than upper middle class means. His whole career shows that he’s a very ambitious man. According to an August 4, 2005 article in the Chicago Sun-Times http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-fitz04.html US. attorneys normally only serve four year terms, Fitzgerald’s time is up, and there’s “speculation that he’ll be shown the door[.]”

Thus, it boils down to the fact that Fitzgerald is a very ambitious lawyer of no more than upper middle class means who’s at the end of his current career trajectory. He must find another way to advance and has shown an unscrupulous willingness to attack the Bush administration in the Plame investigation far different from his disinclination to follow a more promising investigation against Harkin. Now he has the golden opportunity of a lifetime—the chance to be the lynchpin of the Democrats’ effort to do what they have been absolutely unable to do since 2000, elect a Democratic President and Congress by destroying the Bush presidency in a time of war. If Fitzgerald accomplishes that, he will be their superstar and is almost assured to become Hillary’s Attorney General. His motive for pursuing this investigation where there is no underlying crime is clear—he ambitiously and unscrupulously desires to become Hillary’s Attorney General.


27 posted on 02/23/2006 8:22:22 AM PST by libstripper
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In the end Libby, who has served faithfully, will be completely vindicated but the damage to his reputation and the Administration will never be repaired.

The Left will move on to create their next Republican "scandal" with the full support of some other rogue Prosecutor, the NY Slimes, Washington Compost and the rest of the Left-Wing Media.


28 posted on 02/23/2006 8:22:25 AM PST by Daytyn71
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Fitzzzzzzz is not the problem. He is a stone nut case trying to save face. It's the judge that I'm more concerned. He is stonewalling and totally not enforcing the disclosure right to the defense.
31 posted on 02/23/2006 8:25:52 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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Looks like it's going to be a Fitz-BQ. Well done for me please.


33 posted on 02/23/2006 8:28:11 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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Well wonder of wonders, and this case was about WHAT?

Now how about who ever it was at the CIA that referred this case to begin with under the pretense that she was covert???? Names please.


37 posted on 02/23/2006 8:34:30 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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Isn't it a valid defense of perjury that the lie was not 'material' to the unlying case? If there is no underlying case, then how can any statement be "material?" Any lawyers on board please correct me.


38 posted on 02/23/2006 8:35:56 AM PST by Homer1
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