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To: JTN
"global war against drugs" would be a failure ... that the U.S. had "lost" the drug war ... at a program that isn't working"

But the author does not define "failure" or "lost" or "isn't working". Just buzzwords that we're supposed to read and say, "Yeah, he's right! It's a failure! We've lost! It isn't working!".

What a crock.

Now, if he means that the WOD has not stopped drug use 100%, sure. The WOD is a failure. As are our efforts against against everything else from cancer to illiteracy.

So that means we should quit? Well, he answers that himself when he says that a large percentage of Americans will probably say no to the question of, "Do you favor legalization or decriminalization of the sale and use of marijuana, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamines?"

Personally, I'd have left out the word "probably".

14 posted on 02/23/2006 8:42:26 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
But the author does not define "failure" or "lost" or "isn't working". Just buzzwords that we're supposed to read and say, "Yeah, he's right! It's a failure! We've lost! It isn't working!".

His definition may be the one used by such figures as Dennis Hastert and Newt Gingrich. There have been numerous references from the prohibitionists to "winning" the war on drugs, and to a "drug-free America".

Of course these goals are impossible, but much of the support for prohibition comes from belief in these "buzzwords" and that winning the war on drugs is achievable. These public figures need to be asked why they are promising something they cannot deliver.

17 posted on 02/23/2006 8:50:14 AM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: robertpaulsen
But the author does not define "failure" or "lost" or "isn't working". Just buzzwords that we're supposed to read and say, "Yeah, he's right! It's a failure! We've lost! It isn't working!".

In your opinion, when would the War on Drugs be won? Isn't that the real question?

20 posted on 02/23/2006 8:56:05 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: robertpaulsen
So that means we should quit?

No. The fact that SWAT teams of jackbooted thugs are kicking in doors to look for a plant means we should quit. The absolute flushing down the toilet of the Fourth Amendment means we should quit.

It is time to end the fWO(s)D.
32 posted on 02/23/2006 9:27:35 AM PST by mysterio
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To: robertpaulsen
Now, if he means that the WOD has not stopped drug use 100%, sure.

I'd bet that the WOD hasn't even stopped 10% of drug use. Pretty much anyone that wants drugs can get a hold of them right now. Heck, I don't even smoke marijuana, but I know a couple people who could get me some if I wanted to.
64 posted on 02/23/2006 1:59:58 PM PST by Quick1 (Censorship: the worst obscenity.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Unfortunately for your argument, the WOD has not even stopped 1% of drug use - let alone 100%. THAT is why the WOD is a failure.
147 posted on 02/26/2006 5:07:43 AM PST by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Now, if he means that the WOD has not stopped drug use 100%, sure. The WOD is a failure. As are our efforts against against everything else from cancer to illiteracy.

Exactly right. I mean, murder is against the law, but murders still happen by the thousands every year.

Maybe we should just legalize murder while we're at it.

625 posted on 03/10/2006 10:37:32 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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