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I haven't seen this before. Who in the government made an agreement to "not make a formal investigation"? That should be tracked down and announced to the public.

This deal might be bad for the U.S. or it might not - but the secrecy shows that something is rotten in the state of Dubai.

1 posted on 02/22/2006 8:48:46 AM PST by KarlInOhio
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To: KarlInOhio

I wonder from where this info "emerged" last week. Any facts to back that up?


2 posted on 02/22/2006 8:51:28 AM PST by sarasota
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To: KarlInOhio
I hadn't heard it either and it does make this stink even more. Answers must be found and shown to the general public. I can buy the fact that the President may not have know about this specific instance as he is not a micro-manager. But now that he does he does need to act and stop it.

This "deal" that was made or given needs to be run down. The deal maker need to be brought before the public at a minimum to explain him or her self. If they exceeded their responsibility then they should be brought before the courts.

A cross referencing article I missed yesterday:

P&O takeover won’t be hit by objections in US: Hughes
Khaleej Times Online ^ | February 21, 2006 | Criselda E. Diala

at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1582858/posts

4 posted on 02/22/2006 8:59:42 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: KarlInOhio

Either kill the deal or else make it a condition of the deal that if it ever happens that a terrorist attack in the U.S. succeeds because of failures of port security at ports overseen by Dubai Ports World, the U.S. will immediately seize all U.S. assets of Dubai Ports World and also invade the United Arab Emirates and turn it into a Disney attraction for gawking infidel tourists.


5 posted on 02/22/2006 9:01:13 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: KarlInOhio
The Bush administration has not adequately considered the questions raised by this deal

the editorial writers have no way to know whether they adequately considered questions. There is no evidence they didn't, other than assertions by editorial writers that since the deal is OBVIOUSLY bad, the administration MUST have missed something.

The editorial has some minor factual errors -- like saying the DP World was directly taking over contracts in 6 ports, when in fact they are simply overtaking the company that owns the american subsidiaries that oversee the ports now.

It also simply asserts that arabs can't be trusted to be involved in ports, ignoring that the DP World company is already involved in ports around the world, and no other ally has expressed a concern about this company.

It further ignores the clear law that the administration is operating under (which also belies the assertion that we "learned last week" that formal review was a condition -- I'll get to the later). That law precludes the administration from blocking a deal unless there is actual EVIDENCE that the COMPANY making the purchase WILL hurt security, AND that no existing law is adequate to mitigate the harm from that company taking over. I've seen nobody give that kind of evidence.

What of this "secrecy"? Without seeing the details, it's hard to say what the times is referring to -- it'd be nice if they gave a link to an actual news article in their paper where they might have given us facts, but I don't know if the paper actually COVERED this last week. But I can imagine that the deal included the ability for either side to cancel the deal if the U.S. requested a "formal review", which might be something in some other law which could take months and maybe effect the economics of the deal.

That would not be something "secret", it would be simple sound business practice. I remember several mergers which were terminated by agreements which had similar clauses allowing the deal to be cancelled if the U.S. raised formal objections thus driving up the costs of the merger.

In short, this editorial is still way more heat than light, weak on the facts, full of innuendo, and in the end based on the single recurring proposition of the opponents -- that we just can't trust Arabs to do business with us.

6 posted on 02/22/2006 9:03:35 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: KarlInOhio
Last week, it emerged that both Dubai Ports World and Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., the seller, specified that an agreement by the U.S. government not to make a formal investigation as a condition for the deal. This is exceedingly odd.

I'll have to review all of the facts related to this point before commenting on it. Not only is this odd, but it's probably illegal. I was under the impression that the U.S. law governing this kind of acquisition requires a formal investigation whenever a company owned by a foreign government is involved.

7 posted on 02/22/2006 9:18:19 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Last week, it emerged that both Dubai Ports World and Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., the seller, specified that an agreement by the U.S. government not to make a formal investigation as a condition for the deal.

What were they trying to hide? This deal stinks more with each passing day.

10 posted on 02/22/2006 9:28:08 AM PST by Prince Charles
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To: KarlInOhio

The 45-day investigation is mandated by law when there are national security implications to the transaction.


11 posted on 02/22/2006 9:32:05 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: KarlInOhio; All; onyx; Howlin
Here is the relevant portion of the agreement. BTW, agreements like this CAN'T have secret parts, this was a global economic deal governed by laws which require full disclosure of the facts to the stockholders. This assertion of secrecy is at best an admission that the Washington Times simply didn't know how to go on the web and get this information, which was posted at the P&O website for it's stockholders back in DECEMBER, and which I just accessed after a 10-minute search.

I highlighted what was likely the source of the Time's seemingly erroneous assertion of a deal not to investigate, note that it is in an "or" clause the includes a clause allowing an investigation. The relevant part is in BOLD within the following, which can be found in SECTION THREE of the large PDF file found by following the link.

To summarise the bold information: The agreement says it is valid if either the CFI decides it doesn't HAVE to investigate, OR if it investigates and the result doesn't oppose the deal, OR if the statutory time for an objection passes without an objection. NOTHING nefarious at all, just ignorant hyperbole from an editorial board that already announced opposition over a week ago and is trying to justify it's position.

Read the ENTIRE OFFER at: Offer of Purchase

2.1 the Offeror having made all necessary filings (‘‘EFA Filings’’) pursuant to the Exon-Florio Amendment, Section 721 of Title VII of the Defence Production Act of 1950, as amended, 50 U.S.C. App. Section 2170 (the ‘‘EFA’’) and:

2.1.1 the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (‘‘CFIUS’’) having advised the Offeror in writing of its determination pursuant to Section 800.502 of the United States Department of the Treasury’s regulations implementing the EFA (31 C.F.R. Part 800)(the ‘Regulations’’) not to investigate the acquisition by the Offeror of P&O’s United States operations (the ‘‘U.S. Acquisition’’); or

2.1.2 if CFIUS determines to investigate the U.S. Acquisition pursuant to Section 800.503 of the Regulations, the President of the United States having not announced a decision to take action against the U.S. Acquisition by no later than midnight on the fifteenth (15th)calendar day after the completion or termination of the investigation by CFIUS or, if the fifteenth (15th) calendar day is not a business day, no later than the next business day following the fifteenth (15th) calendar day, pursuant to Section 800.504 of the Regulations;

or

2.1.3 ninety (90) calendar days have elapsed since the Offeror submitted an EFA filing which CFIUS has accepted as complete;

14 posted on 02/22/2006 9:42:37 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: KarlInOhio

I think if Bush would just allow a longer review time, it would satisfy a lot of people up about this issue.


22 posted on 02/22/2006 10:05:54 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: KarlInOhio
This issue is old and stale.

Today the Gov of Alaska announced two oil deals:
A tax settlement, 20%, for produced oil in Alaska, and
a stranded gas contract deal for the TransAlaska Natural Gas Pipeline.

The Pipeline deal will dry up a good-sized chunk of oil investment money for the next decade so the Pipeline may be built. $20 billion. The tax deal will encourage the smaller oil companies to develop the smaller fields in Alaska that the biggies are not interested in.

24 posted on 02/22/2006 10:10:45 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: KarlInOhio
Once again the politicos and the MSM is spouting off without the benefit of facts or knowledge of the deal, port operations, port security and the shipping industry in general. The vast majority have never been to a port, been on a ship, have a clue about cargo movements, port operations or who is in charge of port security. The Port Authority is responsible for port security along with INS, U.S. Customs Service, USDA and the U.S.C.G with ultimate oversight of security operations and procedures.
26 posted on 02/22/2006 10:13:08 AM PST by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: KarlInOhio
This deal might be bad for the U.S. or it might not - but the secrecy shows that something is rotten in the state of Dubai.

Like a relationship, if there's irreconcilable differences, it's better to find out before the wedding...

29 posted on 02/22/2006 10:18:53 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: KarlInOhio

DP WORLD EXECUTIVE NOMINATED FOR PRESITIGOUS US GOVT POSITION


Dubai, 24 January 2006: - Global ports operator DP World today welcomed news that one of its senior executives, Dave Sanborn, has been nominated by US President George W. Bush to serve as Maritime Administrator a key transportation appointment reporting directly to Norman Mineta the Secretary of Transportation and Cabinet Member.

The White House has issued a statement from Washington DC announcing the nomination. The confirmation process will begin in February.

Mr Sanborn currently holds the position of Director of Operations for Europe and Latin America for the Dubai-based company

Mohammed Sharaf, CEO, DP World said:
“While we are sorry to lose such an experienced and capable executive, it is exactly those qualities that will make Dave an effective administrator for MarAd. We are proud of Dave’s selection and pleased that the Bush Administration found such a capable executive. We wish him all the best in his new role.”

Ted Bilkey, Chief Operating Officer, DP World said:
“Dave’s decades of experience in markets around the world, together with his passion for the industry and commitment to its development, will allow him to make a positive contribution to the work of the Maritime Administration. We wish him well for the future.”

Mr Sanborn, a graduate of The United States Merchant Maritime Academy, joined DP World in 2005. He previously held senior roles with shipping lines CMA-CGM (Americas), APL Ltd and Sea-Land and has been based, besides the US, in Brazil, Europe, Hong Kong and Dubai during his career. He has also served in the US Naval Reserve.

Mr Sanborn is due to take up his new role based in Washington DC later in 2006.


-- ENDS --


31 posted on 02/22/2006 10:19:46 AM PST by ch.man
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To: donbosco74; planekT

Henry K doesn't want his name all over the report, then slammed in the news and TV


33 posted on 02/22/2006 10:22:17 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: KarlInOhio

If the Longshoremans union is against it, its probably a good deal for the country.


34 posted on 02/22/2006 10:23:41 AM PST by anton
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To: KarlInOhio; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the post. Up till now I have read little outlining the reasons behind Dubai Ports Worlds (DPW) reason for wanting to run/takeover these US port businesses. Now I think I have a slightly clearer understanding based on this article and
Dubai Ports World facts.
In a pinch P&O (Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co.) stockholders had agreed to be bought out by DPW. So naturally, the British owned P&O would no longer be in the position of providing services to the named US ports.
So the question could be raised. If P&O will no longer be under contract to operate these ports, then what are we (US) to do in order to keep the ports opened and operational?
Clearly someone must run the operation. If P&O has been or will be purchased by DPW by the will of the P&O stock holders and officers, then what are we supposed to do?
The ports must not close down for even hours unless a known breach of national security is involved. I can at least better understand why GWB may had taken the course he has.
Since DPW is a world class provider of port managment it could have been as simple as working out deals with them to assure they would monitor very closely their staffs, and who was to be hired to run the daily operations at various levels.
Clearly, in todays world as it be, DPW's internal security operation would do it's best to assure things ran smoothly without any infiltration of Islmofacists, or Islamo symphasizers etc.. Where talking about big business in a very sensitive niche market. Any company that took over from P&O would be under the same scrutiny to make sure no incident ever was to arise.
So perhaps I am changing my mind a bit as to how I had responded to Ernest the other day in another post.
But clearly I see the responses by both sides of the political spectrum in wanting a fully vetted company to take over such a critical business operation so vital to the US economic well being. Surely a tough call to say the least.
35 posted on 02/22/2006 10:23:47 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: KarlInOhio
I see a risk with Dubai because it's arab and also because it's state owned. But then again, I'm not happy with any nation "controling port operations". There's free market on the one hand in the port business I suppose, but then there's national security on the other.

I understand port security is a separate program that is run by our government, but it's so unacceptable right now, how can we make more room for hanky panky with a deal like this?

If people worry that we will be treating Arab states unfairly, then let's just scrap ALL foriegn operated ports! The majority of our ports are still American owned. We can do this. We're a sovergn nation. Do it now, and we have a hill to climb...Do it later, and it'll be a mountain. No pain, no gain

49 posted on 02/22/2006 4:54:39 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: KarlInOhio; All

Read this and realize our congress was the culprit - not Bush:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1583784/posts


50 posted on 02/22/2006 5:00:05 PM PST by CyberAnt (Democrats/Old Media: "controversy, crap and confusion" -- Amen!)
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To: KarlInOhio

Some people inside the inner loop have more passion about their utopian "Flat World" economic ideology than they do about the long term good of the GOP (or, if you prefer, the more generic term "the Right"). Norquist and the DoS Arabists (as well as other cells of Arabists in other departments and services) may have been a value add back in the Reagan years, but these days they are a liability. The failure of the leadership to realize this is a bonehead move. Nothing is more important in the long term than keeping the faith of Main Street. If Main Street is not with us, we're hosed. I know the idologues who post here will flame me, but I really don't care. In fact, I formally invite them all to take a hike and either go join the Dims or form their own party - maybe they can call it the "Flat World Party," the "Fast World Party," or perhaps the "Bottom Line Party." I say to them all, don't let the door hit ye on the arse.


51 posted on 02/22/2006 8:02:37 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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