Posted on 02/21/2006 3:01:23 PM PST by april15Bendovr
February 20, 2006, 7:20 a.m. “He Shall Direct Thy Paths to the Weapons of Mass Destruction.” The former U.N. inspector behind the “Saddam Tapes” says God revealed WMD sites to him.
William Tierney, the former United Nations weapons inspector who unveiled the so-called "Saddam Tapes" at a conference in Arlington, Virginia, Saturday, told National Review Online that God directed him to weapons sites in Iraq and that his belief in the importance of one particular site was strengthened when a friend told him that she had a vision of the site in a dream.
In his presentation at the so-called "Intelligence Summit," Tierney, an Arabic speaker, described how he received the "Saddam Tapes" from federal authorities last year as part of his job as a contract translator. It was supposed to be a routine assignment, but Tierney said he soon realized the tapes had special significance and decided to make them public. Tierney said he believes other tapes, which have not yet been heard, will eventually reveal that Iraq was behind the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center and the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. Tierney also said that he believes Iraq orchestrated the 2001 anthrax attacks, with Saddam Hussein using American scientist Steven Hatfill as a "proxy" to carry out the mission.
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His belief might be strengthened by that, but mine is reduced.
Sorry, but I always get a bit cynical when someone says that God told them something directly, and moreso when they say it was confirmed by someone else' dreams and visions. He may be on target, but those who should pay attention will think him a very serious crackpot.
You mean Godless liberals
No, else I'd have said 'Godless liberals'.
Aummmmm, I see... no.... it's not yet clear.... ah, there it is.... I see dogs... lots of dogs... yes, there is a change in the path.... yes, the path has changed.... Tierney will soon be the local dog catcher.
well, there goes this guys credibility
The real scandal about the WMDs
By Jack Kelly
It was hardly the "smoking cannon" its promoters promised, but it is a good deal more than the cap pistol it's being treated as.
I went to Washington Saturday for the "unveiling" of 12 hours of recently discovered tapes of Saddam Hussein and his senior aides discussing Saddam's WMD programs.
I have "unveiling" in quotes because the translator of the tapes, Bill Tierney, gave an advance copy to ABC, which broadcast a report on them Feb. 15th, thus stepping on his own story.
Turnout among journalists for the formal unveiling was low, partly because ABC had already broken the story, partly because many journalists have little interest in information that contradicts the assumption Saddam had no WMD.
Mr. Tierney, who served with both UN weapons inspectors in Iraq and at U.S. Central Command, gave a slide show on what he said were the highlights on the tapes, which were made in Saddam's office between 1992 and 2002. The highlights were:
On a 1992 tape, Saddam made it clear he still considered himself at war with the United States. "The Mother of All Battles is continuing," he said.
Saddam's WMD programs were revived soon after the first Gulf War, and lots of resources were devoted to them. A 1992 tape discusses the diversion of electric power from a massive plant in Basra for a process for enriching uranium like that the U.S. used to create the first atomic bomb. In a later tape, a scientist explains to Saddam how uranium is being enriched through the process of plasma separation.
Saddam and his aides were not merely confident they could hide their WMD programs from UN inspectors, they were scornful of UNSCOM. "All they will confirm is our cover story," Saddam said on one of the tapes.
On one of the later tapes, foreign minister Tariq Aziz seems to indicate Iraq would soon acquire nuclear weapons. The topic is a proxy terror attack on the United States. Aziz argued biological weapons would be best, because they would be the hardest to link to Iraq. If there were "destruction," he said, it would be harder for Iraq to plausibly deny involvement.
One of Saddam's aides hints at what happened to the WMD. "Where was the nuclear material transported to?" he asks rhetorically. Then, answering his own question, he says: "A number of them were transported out of Iraq."
On another tape, there is what Mr. Tierney said is a discussion of using proxies to attack the U.S. Here the goof in providing ABC with an advance copy of the tapes is most damaging. The translator ABC hired translated the relevant passages as Saddam telling his aides he warned the U.S. groups like al Qaida were planning to attack us.
It is reasonable to assert Saddam had nothing to do with al Qaida (though evidence to the contrary is mounting). But it is preposterous to assume someone who considers himself at war with the United States would warn us of a forthcoming attack.
But because the ABC version was out first, and because it supports what most in the media would like to believe, it will be the dominant interpretation.
Mr. Tierney's quirks make it easier for those who wish to do so to dismiss his translation. He is a born again Christian who told National Review's Byron York that G-d had directed him to join the Army. Mr. Tierney resigned from the Army after he was charged with improper behavior because he prayed with an Iraqi Christian defector prior to interrogating him.
But it is what is on the tapes, and not Mr. Tierney's religious beliefs, on which we should focus. They call into question the tentative conclusion of Iraq Survey Group chief Charles Duelfer that Iraq had ended its nuclear program by 1995.
The tapes support the account of Dr. Mahdi Obeidi, who'd been in charge of the centrifuge program, that parts and blueprints were hidden from UNSCOM but not destroyed.
Air Force investigator David Gaubatz said he found four sealed bunkers in southern Iraq where he was told WMD was stored. He reported this to Mr. Duelfer's group, but they didn't check it out.
Doubtless there are more clues about Saddam's WMD on the more than two million documents and tapes captured after all the fall of Baghdad. It is scandalous that fewer than four percent of them have been translated.
http://jewishworldreview.com/0206/jkelly022106.php3
Maybe he meant his spirituality lead him follow his intuition and not that he had a direct conduit to God Metaphorically speaking?
"but those who should pay attention will think him a very serious crackpot."
That is the point of the article. Discredit him so nobody listens to him. Forget about what the TAPES say, this guy is a wacko. Do you know what the tapes say???????
I am amazed at how many people believe in supernatural beings, but when a person says a supernatural being told him something, they think he must be a crackpot. - tom
but I always get a bit cynical when someone says that God told them something directly, and moreso when they say it was confirmed by someone else' dreams and visions.
It's easy to be cynical when so many crackpots, criminals, etc have said "God told me this or that" or to do "this or that". Many times its very easy to judge if the true God did tell somebody something because of the fruit of their actions. But in this case put this one on hold because neither I or you know at this point. If it is the Holy Spirit working here then you have already judged God wrongly. You don't want to do that. Wait for the fruit of his actions and deeds.
At God's discretion sometimes He will also confirm by someone else that He has spoken to somebody.
What if the tapes do make it more clear that Saddam was behind the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. Who decides if the evidence is valid or not because of these statements about God?
II Samuel, Chapter 23
23:1 Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,
23:2 The Spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue.
23:3 The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.
But the people in charge of searching for WMD didn't take Tierney seriously."
No kidding. WMD inspections via dreams isn't my idea of a serious source. Too bad, I thought we had something here.
It will take a lot of confirmation for me to take this guy seriously as well.
If one wishes to make a point using facts and logic, it is unnecessary to refer to his religious faith. It detracts from argument.
Like you, this seriously diminishes Tierney's credibility in my estimation because his preconceived notions could easily color his interpretation of comments made in Arabic.
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