Posted on 02/20/2006 8:57:32 PM PST by markman46
Muslims ask the West to agree that mocking a religion is unacceptable By Sabiha Khan Khan is communications director for the Southern California chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, based in anaheim l on American-Islamic Relations, based in anaheim For the past few weeks, Muslims from all over the world, from Morocco to Indonesia, have been protesting a series of cartoons that depict Islam's Prophet Muhammad in a most insulting and disparaging manner. While some protesters have resorted to violence, which Muslims wholly condemn, the majority of the world's 1.3 billion Muslims feel deeply hurt by these cartoons, and many have engaged in peaceful protests. To characterize the maelstrom as a "pro- vs. anti-free speech" issue is to misunderstand it. Muslims believe in freedom of speech and Islam advocates it. Muslims also know that if freedom of speech or expression were ever curtailed, they, as a minority group, might be among the first to fall victim. However, freedom of speech is not a pretext to incitement and hate. With freedom of speech comes great responsibility. Many in the West, including Americans, are perplexed as to how cartoons could enrage so many Muslims. Basically, there are religious and political reasons for the reaction.
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Most Germans were Christian. They didn't suddenly drop their religion to join the NSDAP.
Which is why Rushdie is in hiding as well as every other person who publishes the truth about the cult known as islam.
However, freedom of speech is not a pretext to incitement and hate.
But, according to the koran, being a non-moslem or (heaven forbid) a Jew, is a valid pretext to hate.
Everything I need to know about islam I learned on 9/11.
Islam is the enemy
No Christians were nazis. They are two mutually exclusive belief systems. That is, the nazis stood for many anti-biblical beliefs. Somewhat akin to how a Christian cannot be a democrat.
Some nazis may have claimed to be Christian, but they were lying
yep, but when will everyone else wake up to the fact we are in a cultural war.
Divine providence is the excuse they use to perform their atrocities. Once you say "God's will" you are capable of anything,
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You missed my point.
Divine Providence is not a concept. It is an act by God embuing the believer to withstand intolerance. The inability of Muslims to be at peace with perceived injustice demonstrates their failure to receive divine providence. The Lord provides all that the believer needs to overcome evil. Doing evil in the face of evil is an act of unbelievers, not the faithful.
Let the Islamic Civil War begin, or the Western slaughter of the muslim populace must follow.
The problem is that there is no such thing as a moderate moslem. There are only radical moslems who have not gone on jihad yet. The koran COMMANDS them to be terrorists. Therefore every moslem must be treated as a radical.
The western annihilation of islam is inevitable. Hopefully more moslems will see the truth and be saved (accept Jesus as Lord) before that time comes.
We DO have contempt for them! Much more contempt than a few cartoons reveal.
It's mind boggling that people who announce to the world that they will KILL you if you don't submit, who admit that world domination is their goal, and who are terrorizing the planet with bombs and butchery expect anything BUT contempt!
Do they actually EXPECT love and respect for these things?
What do you have against the Krishnas, aside from airports? The incorporation as the religious institution we know in the West is fairly recent, but it's based on a specific tradition of Hinduism about six hundred years old (older than the Protestant sect of Christianity).
And Moonies are just another Christian sect.
you should see the nasty letter to the editor I am writing, I'll post it here when I am done writing it.
I think those violent Muslims see God in more of an Old Testament way, the angry, wrathful God who had no problems directing his people to commit genocide.
There are. I know some. They were doing well under the Shaw, but fled Iran when the Ayatollah took over because they didn't want to live in an oppressive theocracy, even if it was a theocracy of their own religion.
I eagerly await such a thing happening.
Remember that the Jewish religion truly is one of peace while the moslem cult COMMANDS its followers to kill non-believers
Seeing as he's a confirmed child molester wouldn't that count as kiddie porn?
Here is the program that people signed up to when they joined the NSDAP. And remember, like Republicans, not everyone accepts the entire platform:
1. We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the right of self-determination of peoples.
Not an anti-Christian concept.
2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.
Very Christian (as we see it today).
3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population.
Christians have been doing that for over a thousand years.
4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.
Very Christian. You have to be a German Christian.
5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.
I wish we had this law today. Again, not against Christianity.
6. The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.
Excellent.
7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.
Socialist, but not necessarily anti-Christian, although expelling non-citizens is pushing it.
8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since the 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.
Not great, but there is Christian precedent.
9. All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.
Excellent.
10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all Consequently we demand:
Socialist, but Christian ("spiritually").
11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.
Socialist, goes on the usury prohibitions.
12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
Not anti-Christian.
13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
Okay, that's not good, but I don't see where Christianity bans it.
14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
Ditto.
15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
Very Christian.
16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
Neutral.
17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.
Eminent domain, no property tax (yippie!), but there's the socialist bit on an end to speculation. Still, not anti-Christian.
18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, Schieber and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.
Pro death penalty. Many Christians wouldn't consider that Christian.
19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.
Great, that's what we have, common law.
20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.
We do it here, except for the monopoly part.
21. The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.
Protecting mother and child, very Christian. The rest is a bit socialist, but not anti-Christian, and with a good intention.
22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.
Fine.
23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that: a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race: b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the State to be published. They may not be printed in the German language: c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications, or any influence on them, and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life, and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.
At the end there it mirrors a lot of Christians these days, ridding the country of publications with "distructive influence."
24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: common utility precedes individual utility.
Wow, for positive Christianity stated right there.
25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.
Simple consolidation of federal power. And notice it is only the party leaders who promise to support every point of this platform, not the rank and file.
But the abortion clinic bombers were not Christian (even if they claimed to be) How can you be a follwoer of Christ (Christian) and then do what he tells you not to do (Thou shalt not murder). Their actions speak louder than their words.
Contrast this to the moslem terrorists that do exactly what their scriptures tell them to do (fight with the unbeliever wherever you find him. etc)
The taliban was the purest form of islam we've seen.
good question, I will not be viewing CAIR's DVD.
Moonies are not Christian.
They may be akin to the liberal Jews. They are moslem in name but not in practice. Since in order to follow the koran you must be a terrorist there is no such thing as a moderate moslem.
"No True Scotsman"?
Let's face it. The cartoons are a sign of comtempt and ridicule..........................because muslims have done much to deserve both ridicule and contempt.
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