Please take this club and beat me or how OPEC cut supply by 2 million barrels and we shrugged

me | 2/20/2006 | RW

[reluctantwarrior]

We paid for the flight training we paid for the semtex used in the IEDs in Iraq we paid for the camps we paid for the travel expenses and overhead of Aq cells in 60 countries we paid for the last five years of armed conflict between Islamofacists and the west we paid for the election of Hamas we paid for the Madrid bombers we paid for the knife used to saw Nick Bergs head off

What will it take for us to wake up and decide to stop using Saudi oil

Let these sand covered a@@ pirates drink the stuff

[WardMClark]

Too bad your Momma didn't pay for Hooked On Phonics.

[American Quilter]

What will it take for us to wake up and decide to stop using Saudi oil

I'm ready. What alternative fuel do you recommend, and where can I buy it?

[Clint N. Suhks]

IBTZ

[cripplecreek]

I'm all for letting them starve themselves back to pre 1800s population levels.

[jdsteel]

IBTZ?

[reluctantwarrior]

Wow such cutting sarcasm from an unemployed english teacher

[Wiseghy]

You may want to check out Sunday's Dilbert.


That said, I agree that foreign oil poses a strategic problem that could be easily addressed if we got serious about developing domestic sources.

[reluctantwarrior]

Bio diesel and domestic oil

[MeanWestTexan]

Yeah, long time registeree before going crazy. (2003)

[reluctantwarrior]

The dilbert cartoon is spot on, fungibility is an issue if we only play a shell game. But if we stop imports of oil from Saudi, Iran, Venezuela, then even an artificially constrained supply will feel the glut on the market.

[reluctantwarrior]

I am crazy, I spent six months in Africa in 2002, lost three operators chasing Aq. Spent eight months in Afghanistan lost six operators chasing Taliban. I am a fool to think that an idea would be vetted rather than the all too frequent IBTZ from the echo chamber of "there's nothing we can do crowd" spewing all over it.

[joe fonebone]

"What will it take for us to wake up and decide to stop using Saudi oil "
I say we us up all of their's first, then screw 'em

[reluctantwarrior]

They have artificially constrained supply through OPEC and have stated their price target is 50 or higher for the forseeable future. When the market last worked in the market the price dropped to 12 dollars a barrel.

[cripplecreek]

All I know is that America is starting to look a lot like a crack ho when it comes to imported oil.

[Ligeia]

I agree with you completely. We're funding our own demise until we become energy independent.

[Redbob]

I don't mind so much the poor spelling and grammar as the utter lack of any knowledge of economics.

Oil is what you call a "fungible" commodity; in essence, this means that once it's in you gas tank, it matters not one whit where it came from.

Put another way: if we were to completely stop buying arab oil, our gas prices would go up, but the arabs wouldn't suffer a bit: they would merely sell their oil to Europe, South America, Africa, etc.
Which, BTW, is where most of their oil goes now anyway.

So for no more gain than a bit of cheap symbolism, we'd be penalizing nobody but ourselves. This is the kind of thing the Dimocrats love to do, but we try to avoid.

[sarasota]

I agree. When will the wake-up call come in? When we're all freezing/roasting because we've run out of oil supplies?

[Toby06]

Zotworthy over the lack of a few commas? C'mon.

[reluctantwarrior]

Frank Gaffney wrote an excellent book on the ten steps to win this conflict. The seminal one to this thread is to stop impoting oil, period. We decided to land on the moon and ten years later we did it. If we would pester our professional criminal class they would do it.