The Tony Snow Show Thread, Monday, February 20, 2006

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[AliVeritas]

ROFL!
Poll for Dem nominee for '08
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/polls/?vote=true

[Loud Mime]

Schumer voted for it.

S.1214
Title: A bill to amend the Merchant Marine Act, 1936, to establish a program to ensure greater security for United States seaports, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Hollings, Ernest F. [SC] (introduced 7/20/2001) Cosponsors (14)
Related Bills: H.RES.605, H.R.1098, H.R.1099, H.R.2481, H.R.3013, H.R.3437, H.R.3507, H.R.3983
Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 107-295 [GPO: Text, PDF]
Senate Reports: 107-64; Latest Conference Report: 107-777 (in Congressional Record H8561-8590)
Note: As enacted, S. 1214 concerns port security, Coast Guard FY2003 authorization, and other maritime issues.

12/20/2001 Passed/agreed to in Senate: Passed Senate with an amendment by Voice Vote.

Conference report agreed to in Senate: Senate agreed to conference report by Yea-Nay Vote. 95 - 0. Record Vote Number: 243.

Schumer (D-NY), Yea

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:SN01214:@@@R

[Mo1]

There are a couple supreme court cases that says authorizing military action is the same as declaring war. If not then the terrorist wire tap IS really illegal.

the military is dealing with the wiretaps

This is a sale of a property .. it doesn't fall in the same category

[AliVeritas]

If I call will an Indian answer?

'For a minute, I thought you knew something' LOL

[Mo1]

correctiom

This is a sale of a property = This is a sale of a property/business

[AliVeritas]

For those who missed the Sunday shows:
(Of course FR is the first place to go...)

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/BrianPhillips/2006/02/20/187142.html

The ever vigilant Red State
http://www.redstate.com/story/2006/2/19/134238/292

[A Citizen Reporter]

Thank you for bringing some information to this debate.

I've seen far more "whipping up" emotion on it than I care to see.

[AliVeritas]

Presidents' Day Quiz
http://games.toast.net/presidents/

[Petronski]

My question is different. Does this DP arrangement make it more likely that an in-house sympathizer will have access to security plans which he could use to help terrorists locate weaknesses in security?

Put another way, is it more likely that a UAE firm might have someone in house who would attempt to use access to security plans to try to help those who want to slip through that security? Is it more likely with a UAE firm than a British firm?

I don't know the answer to that question, but it's the unnerving part of this deal for me. I wish someone could tell me how I'm wrong, because on this suggestion, I'd rather be wrong.

[mathluv]

I loved the report that came out, showing the levels of education of the Hollyweird types, and comparing them to dims and pubbies.

[Petronski]

By the way, I love that "head-lopping, ululating" terrorists line. LOL

[Seattle Conservative]

We discussed the port issue on the Sunday thread yesterday. Here are a couple of the posts:

I haven't even gotten to the ports of Philly, New Orleans, New York or Newark (other than to have the formal name for either the Newark or New York Operation), but the Miami operation is just plain fascinating of its own right.

Laredo Morning Times - Thursday, June 4, 1998
BY CATHERINE WILSON
AP Business Writer
MIAMI - Three men associated with the Port of Miami, including its ousted former director, were charged Wednesday with stealing $1.3 million and using the money on Super Bowl tickets, lingerie and bar tabs.

They also are accused of using stolen funds to donate $120,000 to the Democratic National Committee in 1994.

Since 1990, the three "have used the Port of Miami as a personal bank," said U.S. Attorney Thomas Scott. Calvin Grigsby, owner of the company that ran the port's container cargo cranes, and former- port director Carmen Lunetta were charged with conspiracy, embezzlement and money laundering. Port contractor Neal Harrington was charged with embezzlement and theft.

Lunetta was forced to resign as port director last year after a judge ruled that Grigsby's cargo company had to open its books to public scrutiny. The port, owned by Miami-Dade County and the eighth-busiest cargo port in the country, lost a total of $22 million in five years while Lunetta controlled the purse strings.

Grigsby owns Fiscal Operations Inc., which since 1982 has operated the towering gantry cranes that handle all of the port's containerized cargo. Public money diverted from the port was held in Fiscal Operations accounts, the indictment charged.

Fiscal Operations collects nearly $8 million a year in ship fees, with the county's share being around $1 million a year in recent years.

Harrington was part owner and a director of Continental Stevedoring & Terminals Inc., a major port contractor which rented cranes from Fiscal Operations.

The $120,000 donated to the Democratic Party in 1994 came from Harrington at Lunetta's request, and Continental was reimbursed, prosecutors said.

http://www.lmtonline.com/news/archive/060498/pagea9.pdf

Continental Stevedoring & Terminals Inc. has a business relationship with P&O, via interest in a commonly owned entity, Eller-I.T.O Stevedoring Company. I get the feeling that more digging will result in a mass of names that would take a chart or visual aid to grasp. ;-)

731 posted on 02/19/2006 12:06:41 PM PST by Cboldt
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1581542/posts?page=734#734

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To: Txsleuth
... when Sec. Chertoff was asked about the Dubai deal, he was VERY closed mouthed and reinterated over and over how it was classified..and he couldn't talk about it...
Well then, time to move on. If the administreation says it's classified, and germane to national security, well, what's with all the questioning?

BTW, good page with lots of links on news regarding this sale: http://oriental_steam_navigation_co.newstrove.com/

Note too that other countries, notably Australia, need to approve the sale, as it affect ownership rights of container ports there, as well.

A company at the Port of Miami has sued to block the takeover of shipping operations there by a state-owned business in the United Arab Emirates. It is the first American courtroom effort to capsize a $6.8 billion sale already embroiled in a national debate over security risks at six major U.S. ports affected by the deal. The Miami company, a subsidiary of Eller & Co. Inc., currently is a business partner with London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., which Dubai Ports World purchased last week. ...
The Miami subsidiary, Continental Stevedoring & Terminals Inc., said the sale to Dubai was prohibited under its partnership agreement with the British firm and "may endanger the national security of the United States." It asked a judge to block the takeover and said it does not believe the company, Florida or the U.S. government can ensure Dubai Ports World's compliance with American security rules.

http://www.newsobserver.com/110/story/402067.html

568 posted on 02/19/2006 9:25:38 AM PST by Cboldt
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1581542/posts?page=591#591

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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 19 February 2006

Posted by Seattle Conservative to LibLieSlayer
On News/Activism 02/19/2006 9:21:22 AM PST · 565 of 1,006

Dubai Ports to acquire P&O in $6.8 billion deal
The Daily Star Middle East | Daily Star Staff
Beirut


DUBAI/LONDON: Gulf-state backed Dubai Ports World declared victory in a $6.8 billion bidding war for UK ports group P&O after Singaporean rival port operator PSA International withdrew from the field on Friday. Dubai Ports said it was confident P&O shareholders would back its 3.9 billion pound ($6.8 billion) bid at a meeting next week, giving it control of P&O ports on six continents and creating the world's third-largest ports group.

"We are waiting for the shareholder vote. Yes, we are confident, we have always been confident," Dubai Ports Chairman Sultan Ahmed Bin Sulayem told Reuters.

The going price was nearly $1 billion above the purchaser's original offer of $5.9 billion in November.

PSA International said earlier it would withdraw from the race, sending P&O shares 3.9 percent lower to 516-3/4 pence by 1026 GMT, a mark slightly below the Dubai Ports offer of 520p.

P&O shares, which have jumped more than 70 percent since the company announced it was in takeover talks in October, were trading higher in recent weeks on anticipation of a higher PSA bid.

"PSA has decided not to increase its offer and will therefore no longer pursue the acquisition of P&O," PSA said in a statement on Friday.

The Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., a 165-year-old maritime icon formed at the height of Britain's sea power, reiterated its recommendation that shareholders accept the Dubai Ports offer. Shareholders vote on the offer on Monday.

"The combination of P&O and DP World has compelling strategic logic and will create significant opportunities for both businesses and their employees," P&O Chairman John Parker said in a statement.

Dubai and Singapore had wrestled for control of P&O's key container ports in Asia, Europe and the Americas, following a three-year boom in shipping on the back of growth in Chinese demand, expanding trade and a global economic recovery.

"For PSA to pay more than this price would not be compatible with commercial business sense and PSA's future success," PSA representatives said in a statement to the London Stock Exchange.

PSA is owned by Temasek, a state investment group.

Dubai Ports' bid has already been cleared by key regulators.

But Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong last month said PSA would have to make a "hard-headed" business decision in the high-stakes battle with DP World, which is backed by Middle East oil money.

In a commentary in Singapore's Business Times last month, Wong Wei Kong said that PSA's play for P&O showed that Temasek Holdings was "playing for big stakes on the global stage."

Wong said the bid marked Temasek's first major foray outside Asia since 2002.

Analysts had said that if PSA won, the deal would have created the world's biggest container port operator by capacity, leap-frogging Hong Kong's Hutchison Ports.

But with Dubai winning, the combined entity with P&O could threaten to eclipse PSA's second-place position globally, analysts said.

In an analysis released before PSA's withdrawal, Macquarie Research said that a win by DP World would give Dubai a 9.3 percent share of global container throughput - just a notch above PSA's 9.2 percent.

But both firms would remain behind Hutchison, which commands a 13.3 percent global market share, researchers said. Credit rating firm Fitch Ratings said in a research note also released before PSA announced the pullout that a win by DP World would make the Dubai port operator "either the second or third largest player" in the world.

Fitch said P&O's global assets would complement either those of DP World or PSA.

P&O has an estimated six percent share of global container throughput - placing it a distant fourth behind Hutchison, PSA, and APM Terminals of Denmark - but the British firm has a strong footprint in Australia and India that its rivals lack.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=3&article_ID=22108
© 2006 The Daily Star

http://www.iht.com/getina/files/309534.html

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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 19 February 2006

Posted by Seattle Conservative to maica
On News/Activism 02/19/2006 8:44:53 AM PST · 511 of 1,006


Here are a couple of articles on the ports:

UPDATE 3-US Democrats plan bill to block Dubai port deal
Reuters ^ | 2/17/06 | Jeremy Pelofsky and Caroline Drees
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1580889/posts

Uproar over U.S. ports (excellent editorial)
The Washington Times ^ | 2/17/2006 | Staff
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1580421/posts

Lawmakers Urge Greater Review of UAE Firm's Deal to Run Six U.S. Ports
www.foxnews.com ^ | Thursday, February 16, 2006 | Sharon Kehnemui Liss
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1579832/posts

Dubai ports takeover prompts backlash
Finacial Times(UK) ^ | 2/16/06 | Stephanie Kirchgaessner and Edward Alden
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1580111/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1581542/posts?page=511#511

[AliVeritas]

I wouldn't throw him out of bed for eating crackers... if it were a choice of him or Carville, Kennedy, Kerry and especially 'Ice Man' Clinton.

[AliVeritas]

[Fudd Fan]

That was fun! I got 16.

[mathluv]

I wonder how many of US even knew the port company was British? It makes you wonder about the control of many other companies.

Some of our textbook companies are now owned by British and other companies. How could that have an impact on what goes in them?

[dinasour]

Start a thread and ping the gang. Put me on the list.

I'm in too, at least most of the time, HoneyDews and all that.

[Seattle Conservative]

More info on port deal:

Chertoff Defends UAE Port Deal
Fox News.com ^ | 2/20/06 | Fox News; AP


Posted on 02/20/2006 7:28:25 AM PST by standingfirm


WASHINGTON — Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff is defending the Bush administration's review of an international shipping deal two days after one company in the Port of Miami sued to prevent an Arab-owned firm from taking over port operations.

Meanwhile, lawmakers also are considering legislation to stop foreign-owned companies from running U.S. ports.

Chertoff on Sunday said the U.S. Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, or CFIUS, had carefully reviewed the Dubai Ports World purchase of London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., which runs commercial operations in New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Philadelphia.

"We make sure there are assurances in place, in general, sufficient to satisfy us that the deal is appropriate from a national security standpoint," Chertoff told ABC's "This Week."

That doesn't sit well with Miami firm Continental Stevedoring & Terminals Inc., a subsidiary of Ellery & Company Inc. Representatives from that company asked a judge to block the takeover of P&O,

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1582127/posts

[B.O. Plenty]

If the UAE company doesn't control the

security
the computers
the facilities
the loading and unloading
the personel

what do they control???

Ans: The money...which means

THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING..

[luvie]

Oooooo...I think I unleashed a monster! :o)