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First Americans May Have Been European
LiveScience.com ^ | 2/19/06 | Bjorn Carey

Posted on 02/19/2006 9:08:52 PM PST by anymouse

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corrected URL (didn't notice it was there before I clicked Post):

http://www.bloodbook.com/african.html


41 posted on 02/19/2006 11:36:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The love of learning, the sequestered nooks, And all the sweet serenity of books. (Longfellow))
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To: anymouse
Eventually, we're going to have to admit two things about the history of man - - - - -

1. We know exactly squat about what man was doing, let alone how and where, in any period more than 5,000 years ago.

And 2. What we've been trying to tell ourselves for the last 1,500 years what went on in the distant past is not only egregiously wrong, but has obscured what did go on and hampered our ability to see the truth.

There's just too damn many Zahi Hawas' in the world spreading lies in the name of political correctness.

42 posted on 02/19/2006 11:59:29 PM PST by Stormcrow ("It's not that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so.")
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To: dfwgator
Actually I used Native North American Caucasian. That way I hit the Native American and Black designations. Heck I was born here, legally, so I'm a native. Everyone now has to be tied to a continent like Asians and Africans so we are North Americans. Since Black describes a race, well I am not white, I am Caucasian. I have the same right to create my group as does any other group. Right now I should apply for minority status. Wow would that break off a couple of sharp sticks.
43 posted on 02/20/2006 12:21:28 AM PST by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: anymouse

No way, they were Chinese!


44 posted on 02/20/2006 12:24:06 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: fish hawk
for crying out loud, do we have to go through one of these threads every month? Okay, the White Man is smart and did a lot of good (and screw ups too) and discovered the whole world. Now leave it alone.

Undeniably brought the world the best system of government and justice - even if in some parts of the world is at first only appied to him.

45 posted on 02/20/2006 12:26:03 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: TimeLord
Some European names for the first Native Americans?

Big Chief, Government, Surren-Deer, Whining Bear

Any others?

I would be careful with insulting names since most of you guys are the offspring of European immigrants (-no matter if they went to America 13.000 or 50 years ago).

Warm greetings from "old" Europe

46 posted on 02/20/2006 12:26:57 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Alright, tell us about the "O" blood type...and all the other ones while you are at it...if you would please.


47 posted on 02/20/2006 12:28:07 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: metmom

What amazes me about this entire issue of migrations is that todays pc crowd insists on only one group or another having migrated to North America. As we should know, man in general is always curious. This fact would alert us to the distinct possibility of many groups arriving here during the past thousands of years. It is a distinct and probable. Oceans have been used for a long time, and most societies had some kind of boatcraft. But, Columbus is rightly credited, since his was the voyage which seemed to have staying power.


48 posted on 02/20/2006 12:51:31 AM PST by son of caesar
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To: dread78645

Looking a current map.

Obviously it would have been easier to travel via the North Equatorial Current. This is what Columbus did, no doubt earlier man did it too. Easy to travel up rivers along the Gulf Coast and end up in all kinds of places. Or get blown to the East Coast of Florida and travel up to the Carolinas and Virginia.


49 posted on 02/20/2006 1:35:18 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question Authority)
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To: gleeaikin
Looking a current map.

Obviously it would have been easier to travel via the North Equatorial Current. This is what Columbus did, no doubt earlier man did it too. Easy to travel up rivers along the Gulf Coast and end up in all kinds of places. Or get blown to the East Coast of Florida and travel up to the Carolinas and Virginia.

My reply to a FReepmail:

> Maybe this is too dumb to put on the board; but if they left Spain, drifted ...

Not dumb at all, that's the route Columbus made.

But heading out to blue water means provisioning: salted meat, barrels of water, veggies in straw, etc. A military-style naval expedition that I don't think was possible 20,000 years ago.

Note that even with sail, Columbus's ships were out of victuals by the time they got to San Salvador (or Cuba or whereever). And I doubt anyone once making landfall would stay on the water in a primative boat, up past the US coast and then decided Nova Scotia is the place to be ...

50 posted on 02/20/2006 1:46:06 AM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to misspeak)
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To: SunkenCiv

Blood types of various peoples.

A few days ago I read a post of how Muslims carried Hindu prisoners/slaves into Afghanistan who eventually migrated into Eastern Europe as the Gypsies. It is interesting to see that those peoples with AB type above 10% are Gypsies, Hindus, Tartars, certain Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and Ainu. I would say this confirms the Gypsy story.


51 posted on 02/20/2006 1:48:50 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question Authority)
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To: dread78645

Sailing across Atlantic.

Quite likely different people used different routes, just as the Europeans did after Colombus. Also there is some shifting of the currents as the earth gets warmer or cooler. Ancient man was probably much better at living from materials harvested from the sea. The Spaniards were already too "civilized" to be so good at that. The great polynesian voyages were much longer than Atlantic ones and they managed to transport women children and livestock and settly many of the Pacific islands.

In terms of our own history. The Spaniards settled the Caribbean and the south using the Equatorial Current. The English took the northern current and ended up in New England instead of Virginia where they were trying to go.


52 posted on 02/20/2006 2:00:22 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question Authority)
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To: anymouse

I don't doubt that some Europeans may have come to America in prehistoric times, but the assertion that American Indians came from Europe is a little assinine. Indians look a lot more Asian than European.


53 posted on 02/20/2006 2:00:36 AM PST by sangrila
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To: sangrila

The Indians killed off the "INDIGENOUS" people they found here; who came from Europe. The Indians came from Asia.


54 posted on 02/20/2006 2:05:05 AM PST by nopardons
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To: TimeLord
Any others?

"Dances with Deficits"?

55 posted on 02/20/2006 2:09:00 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: nopardons

LOL


56 posted on 02/20/2006 2:09:27 AM PST by sangrila
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To: sangrila
Listen n00b, what I posted isn't funny at all, but fact.

It's obvious, that you don't know anything at all about this topic. So, before you decide to laugh at those who do, take a look at the old GGG threads and learn about the EUROPEAN remains, which are far older than any Indian one, that have been found in the Americas. Or ask blam and Sunken Civ to help you out with links and info.

57 posted on 02/20/2006 2:17:57 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Ptarmigan
They also found red haired mummies in Peru.

Sounds like a good start for a country song.

58 posted on 02/20/2006 3:03:40 AM PST by leadhead (It’s a duty and a responsibility to defeat them. But it's also a pleasure)
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To: nopardons
Listen n00b, what I posted isn't funny at all, but fact.

Your scenario is a theory, not a fact. The theory is very interesting and it sounds possible to me although I've never seen hard evidence that it is true. I honestly thought you were joking because of the way you phrased your post. I am left to conclude that you are actually angry about these hypothetical Europeans being killed by prehistoric Indians. Maybe all of us European-Americans should sue the Indian tribes for repairations.

59 posted on 02/20/2006 3:07:21 AM PST by sangrila
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To: leadhead

It actually would be. LMAO


60 posted on 02/20/2006 3:09:41 AM PST by sangrila
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