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Lots of people believe that some people are born gay. I know plenty of them, and have heard many others express this same view.

Lots and many are indefinite modifiers and convincing only to someone who isn’t a critical thinker. Nonetheless, I will accept your postulate that “some” people may hold the opinion you have posed.

Some of these people believe that it's a FACT that some people are born gay. I don't. I acknowledge that there is no scientific evidence to prove this, and that it's just an OPINION

As I noted before, those who refuse to consider fact and logic when forming opinions will not be convinced by some else who formed a conflicting opinion in the same manner.

However, there are many other people who will be influenced by the fact that our government will treating homosexuality as normal…

Sadly, you are probably correct. However, ill-founded arguments opposing homosexual behavior will probably not convince such people, either, before or after, some governmental action.

You will never be able to persuade those who believe that some people are born gay to oppose gay marriage by trying to convince them that homosexuality is a disease that can be cured. They will dismiss this argument as the ravings of religious fanatics.

There are some people you cannot convince that the earth is round rather than flat. That does not mean that most people cannot be convinced by well reasoned, well supported arguments. In contrast, very few, if any, people are convinced by ill-founded arguments.

If you want to abandon trying to convince these people to oppose gay marriage because they do not accept your view that homosexuality is a disease that can be cured, that's your choice… as we disagree about whether homosexuality is a disease or an innate birth defect.

I do not believe that homosexuality is a disease nor have I expressed such in our discussion on this, or any other, thread. My position has always been that homosexual behavior is a conscious choice. As such, its practitioners can choose not to engage in the activity with the proper motivation. To assert otherwise is illogical and completely unsupported by facts.

I will try to convince them to oppose gay marriage based on other arguments, arguments that you would obviously not view as being valid...

Good luck. However, I fear your efforts are doomed to failure and will only create frustration for you. Consequently, I suggest you use facts and logic in your efforts

I know many people who oppose gay marriage despite the fact that they believe that some people are born gay. When I ask them to articulate why they're opposed to gay marriage, they have a hard time explaining themselves.

When I tell them why I oppose gay marriage, they say "that makes sense, I never thought of it that way, but that's kind of what my gut feeling was, thanks for clarifying it".

Of course, these are people who are already opposed to gay marriage, so it's not like I've convinced anybody who favors gay marriage to change their mind. But at least I've helped them to understand their own feelings so that they can better articulate them in the future.

My arguments won't work for everybody, but I'm convinced that there is a certain segment of the population who feel the same way that I do.