To: Lucky Dog
I know many people who oppose gay marriage despite the fact that they believe that some people are born gay. When I ask them to articulate why they're opposed to gay marriage, they have a hard time explaining themselves.
When I tell them why I oppose gay marriage, they say "that makes sense, I never thought of it that way, but that's kind of what my gut feeling was, thanks for clarifying it".
Of course, these are people who are already opposed to gay marriage, so it's not like I've convinced anybody who favors gay marriage to change their mind. But at least I've helped them to understand their own feelings so that they can better articulate them in the future.
My arguments won't work for everybody, but I'm convinced that there is a certain segment of the population who feel the same way that I do.
68 posted on
02/20/2006 6:08:58 PM PST by
The Fop
(They attacked 2 of America's main arteries, so we invaded the heart of Arabia. It's that simple)
To: The Fop
My arguments won't work for everybody, but I'm convinced that there is a certain segment of the population who feel the same way that I do.
It is what you said that you believe that concerns me
I happen to think that there are many people who are born gay. Let's call them "authentically gay". I also happen to think that the line in the Bible that says "a man shall not lie with another man" is addressed to heterosexuals, and G-d is saying "it's okay for THEM to do that, but don't YOU go mimicking their behavior.
For your first postulate to be true, item b. below would have to be false. Unfortunately, for your belief, the Center for Disease Control statistics solidly support the assertion in item b.
Additionally, you would have to ignore item d. below. Again, unfortunately, for your belief, the fact that homosexual practitioners abandon that life style (and there are many who do) solidly supports item d.
Can you explain how accomplish this bit of mental gymnastics in face of factual evidence to contrary?
4) Biological/Psychological Assertion: Homosexual behavior is contrary to the natural function of sex and normal human social behavior.
a. Procreation is impossible to exclusively homosexual behavior practitioners.
b. If homosexuality were a genetic anomaly, it would appear in the population at much lower incidence than is observed.
c. Homosexual behaviors observed (Skinner, et al) in non-human animals are neurotic, abnormal singularities and require artificial, forced conditions (e.g., overcrowding) and is not seen in the normal habitat and behavior of these animals.
d. Homosexual behavior is a conscious choice by its practitioners
homosexual orientation(if it exists) no more requires an individual to participate in homosexual behavior than heterosexual orientation requires an individual to participate in rape, bigamy, prostitution or any other sexual activity.
As for your beliefs about the Biblical references, you were previously confronted with irrefutable evidence that they are erroneous in the extreme. However, you have ignored the evidence. How much longer will you plow ahead with such error?
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