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To: Lucky Dog

"When “gay marriage” opposition is ill-founded or illogical, “gay marriage” supporters can, and do, divert attention from valid opposition by attacking the ill-founded argument and successfully diverting public attention from the more valid arguments."

Those who support gay marriage believe very strongly that the idea that homosexuality is a disease that can be cured is "ill-founded". I happen to agree with them, though I certainly wouldn't call my opinion a "fact". This is a hotly debated issue that has yet to be resolved by any scientific proof.

My argument against gay marriage is geared towards those who share my belief about some people being "authentically gay". I think you'd have a tough time convincing these people otherwise. I'm trying to show these people that legalizing gay marriage isn't something that just affects gays. It's about society's view of homosexuality in general. Either we view homosexuality as normal or abnormal. One can believe that some people are born gay, and still view them as abnormal. I want homosexuality to viewed as abnormal, and legalizing gay marriage would put an end to that.


64 posted on 02/19/2006 11:33:17 AM PST by The Fop (They attacked 2 of America's main arteries, so we invaded the heart of Arabia. It's that simple)
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To: The Fop
Those who support gay marriage believe very strongly that the idea that homosexuality is a disease that can be cured is "ill-founded".

You offer no facts or statistics to support your claim. Further, your contradict your own assertion with the statement: This is a hotly debated issue that has yet to be resolved by any scientific proof.

My argument against gay marriage is geared towards those who share my belief about some people being "authentically gay".

Once again, your previous statement contradicts any logical foundation that could exist for your position.

I think you'd have a tough time convincing these people [who believe in "authentically gay" people] otherwise.

As you have admitted, there is not any scientific proof to support the position that anyone is authentically gay. Those who refuse to consider fact and logic when forming opinions will not be convinced by some else who formed a conflicting opinion in the same manner. Consequently, your ill-founded argument will convince no one and it delusional to think otherwise.

One can believe that some people are born gay, and still view them as abnormal.

This is the only logical argument you have presented. However, even this argument is only supported by implied premises rather than stated ones. It is hardly the way to present a convincing argument.

I want homosexuality to viewed as abnormal, and legalizing gay marriage would put an end to that.

This argument is improperly stated and poorly supported, even by implied premises. It requires your audience to make assumptions and take “cognitive leaps into the unknown.” It appears that you are presenting an argument that legalizing “gay marriage” would somehow counter the perception that homosexuality is abnormal.

You might want to refer to my post #47, the numbered paragraphs.
65 posted on 02/19/2006 2:07:54 PM PST by Lucky Dog
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