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The Evolution of Theory: Defining the Debate
Breakpoint ^ | Feb, 16, 2006 | Allen Dobras

Posted on 02/18/2006 1:21:05 PM PST by DeweyCA

“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”

“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”

—Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass

A curious metamorphosis of the language of evolution seems to be taking place as the Darwinian theory becomes more suspect in the eyes of scientists who advocate intelligent design, and with the public at large.

The Gallup Organization has been polling the public on this issue since 1982, when 38 percent indicated a belief in the creationist explanation of life's origin, 33 percent believed in theistic (God-directed) evolution, and 9 percent chose the “no God” account. The trend has been steadily toward creationism, and by November 2004, 45 percent chose the creationist explanation, 38 percent the theistic evolutionist account, and 13 percent the “no God” explanation.

Nevertheless, the reaction by supporters of evolution has been to shut intelligent design out of the debate over origins and declare that the public has woefully misunderstood scientific terminology when it comes to the meaning of “theory.” As I have reported earlier at BreakPoint Online, “theory” in scientific parlance is said to really mean “fact”—and if the public understood this, there would allegedly be much less confusion over the “theory” of evolution. As author David Quammen said in a November 2004 National Geographic article, “What scientists mean when they talk about a theory [is] not a dreamy and unreliable speculation, but an explanatory statement that fits the evidence.”

It is remarkable how broadly Quammen’s quote has proliferated among other commentators. His words generated over seven hundred hits on an Internet search. Other similar quotes are also widely circulated (emphasis added):

“In everyday use, the word “theory” often means an untested hunch, or a guess without supporting evidence. But for scientists, a theory has nearly the opposite meaning. A theory is a well-substantiated explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can incorporate laws, hypotheses and facts.” (172 hits) Kenneth R. Miller - Professor of Biology, Brown University; The American Museum of Natural History

“When scientists speak of evolution as a theory they do not mean that it is a mere speculation. It is a theory in the same sense as the propositions that the earth is round rather than flat or that our bodies are made of atoms are theories.” (69 hits) Dr. Dennis O’Neil - Behavioral Sciences Department, Palomar College

“Many people learned in elementary school that a theory falls in the middle of a hierarchy of certainty—above a mere hypothesis but below a law. Scientists do not use the terms that way, however. According to the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), a scientific theory is ‘a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world’ . . . so when scientists talk about the theory of evolution . . . they are not expressing reservations about its truth.” (628 hits) Answers to Creation Nonsense - John Rennie, Editor-in-Chief; Scientific American, July 2002

These nearly identical definitions of the word “theory” have proliferated so broadly they have taken on the roll of science “talking points.” In reality, it is common knowledge—even among scientists—that a theory can mean anything from wild speculation to near-absolute fact.

Einstein’s special theory of relativity, for example, is a fairly well established theory that has been validated by numerous scientific measurements, yet it breaks down when describing motion in varying gravitational fields. On the other hand, string theory describes subatomic particles in terms of incredibly small vibrating strings whose frequency determines the type of particle. The theory attempts to connect the particle to the four seemingly independent forces found in the natural world: gravity, electromagnetism, and the strong and weak nuclear forces.

String theory exists only in mathematical formulae and requires a universe of ten dimensions beyond space and time. In an interview for the PBS program The Elegant Universe, 2004 Nobel Prize in Physics laureate David Gross admitted that physicists really don’t know what string theory is:

It’s as if we’ve stumbled in the dark into what we thought was a two-bedroom apartment and now we’re discovering is a 19-room mansion. At least maybe it’s got a thousand rooms, and we’re just beginning our journey . . .

In string theory I think we’re in sort of a pre-revolutionary stage. We have hit upon, somewhat accidentally, an incredible theoretical structure, many of whose consequences we’ve worked out, many of which we’re working out, which we can use to explore new questions… many of us believe that that [a very radical break with conventional physics] will be insufficient to realize the final goals of string theory, or even to truly understand what the theory is, what its basic principles are. (emphasis added)

The “gay gene theory,” which was offered by NIH researcher Dr. Dean Hamer, claimed that sexual orientation was passed genetically through gene position Xq28—a theory that turned out to be completely bogus, if not fraudulent.

As can be seen, “theory,” in the scientific sense, can mean anything from well established to highly speculative to nonsense, and everything in between. Nevertheless, as Humpty Dumpty explained to Alice, it is not important what one thinks a word means, it is which definition becomes “master” over any other. It seems the strategy of evolutionists is to preempt debate by assigning a narrow meaning, i.e., fact, to the word theory—especially when in union with the word evolution. Proponents of evolution have made some headway in altering the meaning of theory in popular reference dictionaries. For example:

Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary, 1961: 1. Contemplation; speculation. 2. The analysis of a set of facts in their ideal relations to one another; as essays in theory. 3. The general or abstract principles of any body of facts; pure as distinguished from applied, science or art; as the theory of music or of medicine. 4. A more or less plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle offered to explain phenomena. 5. Loosely, a hypothesis or guess. 6. Math. A body of theorems presenting a clear, rounded, and systematic view of a subject; as, the theory of equations.

Webster’s Seventh Collegiate Dictionary, 1967: 1. The analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another . . .

Webster’s New Universal Unabridged Dictionary, 1983: 1. Originally, a mental viewing; contemplation. An idea or mental plan of the way to do something. 2. A systematic statement of principles involved; as the theory of equations in mathematics . . .

But in some later dictionaries, the primary definition changed:

Webster’s College Dictionary, 2000: 1. A coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Darwin’s theory of evolution. 2. A proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural . . .

The New Oxford American Dictionary, 2005: 1. A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something; especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained; Darwin’s Theory of Evolution . . .

Webster’s New World College Dictionary, 2004: 1. [Obsolete]. A mental viewing; contemplation. SYN: theory, as compared here, implies considerable evidence in support of a formulated general principle explaining the operation of a certain phenomena; The theory of evolution.

So it seems that the “Humpty Dumpty theory” is coming through for evolutionists, in a strategy not uncommon in today’s culture war: Unrestricted abortion is really reproductive health; sodomy is a lifestyle alternative; Christmas is Winter Holiday; and family is whatever one wants it to be. Perhaps we’re approaching a time when the definition of words will no longer be important—we can just make them up as we go along.

But no matter how the language is manipulated in order to change fantasy into reality, the fact remains that the development of complex organisms by solely naturalistic processes remains a formidable, if not insurmountable, obstacle to evolutionists. Darwin himself had doubts about the viability of natural selection in his study of the human eye. His commentary in The Origin of Species is illuminating:

To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree possible.

Nevertheless, Darwin steadfastly clung to the belief that natural selection was somehow at work in the complex process of sight. Modern science suggests this conundrum began with a “freckle” that in some mysterious way offered an ancient organism a selective advantage over its competitors until only the freckled mutations remained.

Over time, the spot evolved into a freckled “depression” with a similar competitive advantage, which over the ages evolved into the human eye, complete with lens, iris, vitreous humor, retina, cornea, adjustable pupil, macula, eye lids, tear ducts, and an optic nerve connected to the brain. Yet the eye is but one of a multitude of similarly inexplicable organic complexities—a formidable challenge, indeed, for evolutionists. But there is an alternative:

“The LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.” Genesis Chapter 2, verse 7


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To: b_sharp

OK, I'll cite you as an authority too.


301 posted on 02/20/2006 11:40:20 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

Exactly what process or phenomenon do you believe is required for evolution to work that has not been observed? Be specific.


302 posted on 02/20/2006 11:41:42 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138

Now, that I answered your question, why do you believe something impossible?


303 posted on 02/20/2006 11:43:16 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Havoc
Why are you going on about such huge saltation events? Evolution does not work that way. You are making and attacking a strawman.

BTW, corn has undergone changes from a wheat-like plant to modern corn. It does change.

Before you go on about humans doing the changing in corn be aware that humans do the selecting only, the changes have to be there for the selection to work. Change is the rule in the universe not stagnation as you propose, just look at the cosmos. Heck, just look at the 2LoT.
304 posted on 02/20/2006 11:43:42 AM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: microgood

One fossil away from being proven false? Sorry, but you dont know what you are talkin about.... the theory of evolution would have been the same theory wothout Lucy, the Australopithecus. Lucy was a significant because she was the oldest bi-pedal hominid found.


305 posted on 02/20/2006 11:44:31 AM PST by vincentblackshadow
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To: Havoc
i repeat: there is no denying the truth of evolution except with ego

306 posted on 02/20/2006 11:46:27 AM PST by vincentblackshadow
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To: Tribune7

In what post number did you explain the process or phenomenon necessary for evolution that has not been observed?


307 posted on 02/20/2006 11:48:37 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138

But, it has been observed by Bible literalists! They must be right because they cant be biased!


308 posted on 02/20/2006 11:51:51 AM PST by vincentblackshadow
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To: js1138

Post 270

The only way for uniformitarian evolution to occur would be via a miracle.

309 posted on 02/20/2006 11:53:37 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: vincentblackshadow
The fact is, there are hundreds of arguments you could bring up against an evolutionist that couldnt be answered. That is because this theory is relatively new and is probably only 60% complete. So, do we throw the most sensible theory of creation out the window, no!
310 posted on 02/20/2006 11:56:45 AM PST by vincentblackshadow
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To: Tribune7

uniformitarion? like it all happened at the same time!


311 posted on 02/20/2006 11:58:07 AM PST by vincentblackshadow
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To: Tribune7
Me: Exactly what process or phenomenon do you believe is required for evolution to work that has not been observed?

You: For uniformitarian evolution to work as it's proponents claim would take a miracle.

Again. exactly what process or phenomenon do you believe is required for evolution to work that has not been observed?

312 posted on 02/20/2006 12:03:11 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Havoc
He is noting specifically that they are trying to redefine the word in order to move the goal posts on responsibility and proof.

Kind of like how you redefined the word "species" so that you could prove that speciation does not occur by dishonestly claiming that all corn plants are the same species?
313 posted on 02/20/2006 12:06:48 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Havoc
"They've recently tried chopping free of macro-evolution completely and are seeking to say that all the change takes place internally till something new is ready in the genes to break forth.. kindof like Evolution is cooking something up in the background that it knows can't work yet, so it doesn't unleash it till it's perfected.

The difference you claim between micro and macro evolution is a creationist construct. Although scientists started using the terms and some still use them the difference is of degree only, not of type as you would have. The creationists tactic of changing meaning to make a point easier to attack is one you use frequently, including in this post. You should ask yourself why you need to create strawmen arguments.

As far as recessive genes lying dormant until a changed selection makes them beneficial, this is a hypothesis that is not accepted by the majority of biologists because it has not been researched fully. If it turns out that it is a reliably observed mechanism it will become part of the synthesis. Note the qualification that it needs to be more than just speculation to be accepted - counter to your assertion.

" evolution with a brain as it were.. The more desperate they get, the quackier the theory becomes. And they don't seem to think the desperation is so transparent.. Morons shifting the game in broad daylight thinking they're hidden from the light.

The theory changes as new information comes to light. New information is a result of more precise measurement techniques and finds in the field as well as in the lab. Would you prefer science not adjust as techniques improve?

Morons? I doubt scientists could be called morons by any intelligence measuring test.

314 posted on 02/20/2006 12:16:37 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: b_sharp

Perhaps our genius evolution critics could name a branch of science that does not change and adapt with new data.

Some of them have mentioned gravity. Anyone care to list the revisions that gravity has undergone in the last few centuries?


315 posted on 02/20/2006 12:37:06 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138
Again. exactly what process or phenomenon do you believe is required for evolution to work that has not been observed?

First, I want make sure we are on the same page as far as defining evolution. I don't mean changes at the species, genus or even family level. By evolution, I mean all life descending from a single cell via natural selection and genetic mutation/recombination.

316 posted on 02/20/2006 12:43:13 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: vincentblackshadow
uniformitarion? like it all happened at the same time!

Ah, no. That's not what uniformitarian means

317 posted on 02/20/2006 12:52:03 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
I mean all life descending from a single cell via natural selection and genetic mutation/recombination.

At what specific point do you believe a miracle is required, and what is your evidence?

318 posted on 02/20/2006 12:53:48 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138
At what specific point do you believe a miracle is required, and what is your evidence?

Why are you asking for evidence that a miracle occurred? Shouldn't you be offering evidence that one didn't?

319 posted on 02/20/2006 1:05:44 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7; js1138
At what specific point do you believe a miracle is required, and what is your evidence?

Why are you asking for evidence that a miracle occurred? Shouldn't you be offering evidence that one didn't?

Scientists have come up with a robust and well-supported theory that explains descent from a single-celled organism.

You disagree on some points of this.

Surely you should have some evidence for your position??? That all js1138 is asking for, is some details, some evidence.

320 posted on 02/20/2006 1:11:48 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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