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"Parents need to understand that anytime they let their kid go online alone it's as if they allowed a stranger into their child's bedroom and the stranger closed the door."

In the end, I think it is the near collapse of family values that creates these problems. If something is dangerous, then parents need to make certain that their kids aren't doing it.

1 posted on 02/18/2006 7:47:15 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/18/2006 7:50:52 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

But what if the parents are doing it too? My ex-DIL has her own page with a few provocative pictures. If my son has anything to do with it they will end up in court at the custody hearing along with a few printouts of these articles.


3 posted on 02/18/2006 7:52:31 AM PST by tiki
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To: wagglebee

"is wholly owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, which also owns the Fox News Channel."

So what? Completely irrelevent smear job.


4 posted on 02/18/2006 7:57:34 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Close the UN, Keep Gitmo!")
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To: wagglebee

I agree with you all the way about parents taking responsibility to protect their kids as best they can - with all their might short of jailing them.

But we also have to realize that with the adoption of an amoral culture where the most base adults are free do to and say whatever they choose in front of kids and all around kids, there comes a point where it is impossible protect one's kids.

It is popular today to shout at parents: If don't like it, keep your kids from seeing or hearing it! It is as if parents are the only adults responsible in America for having respect and care for children. It is as if we think parents can serve as absolute jailers for their kids, twenty four hours per day. Everyone else could care less if a kid is around or not when they do things publically that are not good for kids.

It is a no win situation for families so don't be quick to blame parents when our scummy society slimes children. Free people are supposed to have morals and honor to control their own behavior and actions in regard to themselves and others. We don't have that anymore.


5 posted on 02/18/2006 7:59:29 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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"At last count, over 55 million people had "space" on the site, including countless teenagers who use their pages to communicate their thoughts on everything from school to music to the opposite sex."

With 55,000,000 people doing ANYTHING together there are are going to be a number of rapes and murders as well as incidents. Sad but true - it's human nature.

There is nothing about Myspace that makes it more dangerous than any other part of the internet where people talk openly about who they are.


6 posted on 02/18/2006 7:59:30 AM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: wagglebee
Now they allow posters to privatize their sites. They claim that it promotes the privacy and safety of the posters. All it does is keep parents from discovering what little animals their kids are on the Internet.
8 posted on 02/18/2006 8:03:20 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: wagglebee
Myspace was initially 18+ "Tom" and the other owner lowered the age prior to the sale to Murdoch. Those of us on there did not want kids on the site.

But the site has become more entertainment market driven (with commercial sponsorship of band, tv, dvd, gane, and movie "profile" links.

"Tom" sold the site out before it went to Murdoch. I think the goal was to raise the user base and get the top dollar for it, consequences be damned. Came it at half a billion dollars.

Even at that figure, the site is hardly stable (sometimes it works and sometimes there is heavy maintenance).

Even among adults, there needs to be some skepticism about meeting up with total strangers on myspace (or any online site).

At least one model and photographer met on myspace with the man murdering the woman. And recently the ICP loving hatchet wielding gay bay attacking psycho (who was 18) had a myspace page telling everyone (including his friends) just how nuts he was.

What about Yahoo groups? What about the countless blog sites?

Why do so many kids have webcams?

I won't blame myspace entirely (I don't think they are the sole site although I do believe they were irresponsible). They should be able to block minors from view if you do not know the full name or email of the person with whom you are trying to view. I say this because the code is already implemented (if adults want it for their profiles) to limit who can try to add you as a friend.

Parents should be cautious about where/how their kids use the computer.

Murdoch did not create myspace. He only purchased a pre-existing site that had minors already using it. But then the media will ding him wherever they find a target.

11 posted on 02/18/2006 8:07:05 AM PST by weegee ("...the left can only take power through deception" -W. Chambers, former mem of Communist Party USA)
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"Parents need to understand that anytime they let their kid go on line alone it's as if they allowed a stranger into their child's bedroom and the stranger closed the door. "

Employing a successful tactic from the war on drugs: The bold absolute lie.


12 posted on 02/18/2006 8:12:16 AM PST by I see my hands (Arguing facts to a liar is like bringing a handshake to a gun fight.)
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To: wagglebee

It's all eGore's fault!


18 posted on 02/18/2006 8:25:20 AM PST by SouthTexas (2006 will be a very good year.)
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To: wagglebee

I disagree.

I have two daughters who use this site and I can tell you that there is absolutely no doubt that bad people frequent that place trolling and that they alllow about all they can in the way of decadent behavior....especially yiung angst, dope talk, mutilation and young homoerotic indulging

I can keep them off it at home but not elsewhere if they wish to see it.

It's a problem that is blowback from technology that has yet to be resolved.

That said....it's not hard to see why kids like it.

Are you familiar with the site?

(father of four)


24 posted on 02/18/2006 8:37:51 AM PST by wardaddy ("I hate the Winter Olympics cause they are not athletes and there are too few blacks"..Bryant Gumbel)
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To: wagglebee

I cannot, for the life of me, figure out what Rupert Murdoch's ownership of MySpace has to do with stupid teenagers posting more information there than they should.

If there are really 55 million users, then this is one of the most successful site on the internet. Individuals are responsible for what they post there, and parents should monitor their children's use of such sites, or bar them from using them.

Check what your child is doing on the internet, parents!


25 posted on 02/18/2006 8:41:55 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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A website that encourages young people to post personal information about themselves and has been linked to a series of rapes and other crimes by sexual predators is wholly owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, which also owns the Fox News Channel.

Guilty by association!!!

FOX news and Rupert Murdock are dangerous to your kids!
29 posted on 02/18/2006 8:50:24 AM PST by adorno
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In San Antonio this week, some fifteen year old girls skipped school to hook up with some guys they met on myspace. The girls were drugged and raped, then dumped off at their school in an incoherent state.

They are lucky they weren't murdered, and dumped under a bridge somewhere.

On the news they showed the dad of the 22 year old rapist, and he was defending his son's actions-yikes.


30 posted on 02/18/2006 8:53:44 AM PST by sockmonkey
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Since the Internet hit the news, and even before with AOL and other early on-line services, there have been waves of media-driven hysteria fanned by "law-enforcement officials."

Before that we panic over "rock and roll," comic books, and the silver screen.

45 posted on 02/18/2006 9:45:18 AM PST by MRMEAN (Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. -- Tacitus)
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...A website that encourages young people to post personal information about themselves and has been linked to a series of rapes and other crimes by sexual predators is wholly owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, which also owns the Fox News Channel...

I admit I don't know much about MySpace... I just saw the Murdoch/FNC tie-in and am calling it to your attention...

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

51 posted on 02/18/2006 9:59:12 AM PST by nutmeg (NEVER trust democRATs with our national security)
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Here's an excellent 2 part interview of Mike Salcido of the Child Security Network by Free Republic member 'JustAWoman', Lores Rizkalla. (mp3 audio)

Interview audio here

55 posted on 02/18/2006 10:16:37 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: wagglebee

Is it just my imagination, or do conservatives invoke the name Rupert Murdoch in the same way liberals invoke the name Karl Rove? I guess that everyone's got to have a Bogeyman.


60 posted on 02/18/2006 10:57:44 AM PST by Redcloak ("Shiny... Let's be bad guys.")
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To: wagglebee
Law enforcement officials, however, believe teens are disclosing way too much information for their own good.

The kids who are disclosing information know they shouldn't. They read that everywhere they go online, and it's taught in every computer class in school. They're looking for thrills, as some teenagers through time have always done.

Myspace.com by itself isn't dangerous; if the kids go out and meet someone they have been conversing with on myspace.com, they put themselves in danger. I'm sure there are plenty of kids on that website who know better than to do something stupid like that.

73 posted on 02/18/2006 10:06:00 PM PST by SuziQ
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