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1 posted on 02/18/2006 7:25:30 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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"It might be possible to go through two mortgages, for example, or even have 50-year or 75-year mortgages," Dr Tuljapurkar explained.

You first, doc.

2 posted on 02/18/2006 7:30:17 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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Along with timeframes until things lapse into the public domain, they just keep moving the goalpost, don't they?


3 posted on 02/18/2006 7:31:55 AM PST by weegee ("...the left can only take power through deception" -W. Chambers, former mem of Communist Party USA)
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[But an increase in the retirement age to 85 would bring costs down to today's levels.]

This may be the liberal politician's plan, a return to the good old days of despotism. I thought they planned to just assassinate older people for the good of all after they reached old age. Oh, all the joys of athiest secular humanism.
4 posted on 02/18/2006 7:33:05 AM PST by ohhhh ( I pray the public school system collapses for the good of the children.)
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Ordinarily I'd be apprehensive about working to 85, as this could be interpreted as a transparent attempt by the Federal government to delay the bankruptcy of the SSA.

However, just think of the millions of Generation Xers that will have to toil for an additional 20 or 25 years under the baby boomers. They will go absolutely bonkers.

5 posted on 02/18/2006 7:35:54 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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A 75 year mortgage? He must be building an alabastor castle with gold faucets and Italian marble toilets.

For $2,000 you can build a fine 8 x 10 shack. As you save more money, add onto it. In 5 years you'll have 40 x 50 shack. No mortgage necessary.


6 posted on 02/18/2006 7:36:39 AM PST by sergeantdave (And on the second day The Lord created February - the slowest month of the year.)
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In the immortal words of The Who: "hope I die before I get old.."

I guess the Social Security Administration hopes the same thing.

7 posted on 02/18/2006 7:36:50 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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Great, we'll have Alzheimer's victims still working at their jobs.

The pendulum is swinging in the opposite direction. In the not-so-distant past we had child labor abuses, in the future we'll have bosses standing over grannie with a riding whip.


8 posted on 02/18/2006 7:37:27 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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In the US the cost of social security and medical care would almost double if people retired at 65

I retired when I was 46 and not being able to immediately start collecting S.S. & Medicare was not an incentive to continue working.

Anyway, I'd love to see both of those programs fall flat on their a$$es and die.

11 posted on 02/18/2006 7:39:26 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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They told me my life expentancy was determined by my genes, and the longer my parents lived the longer I would live. What they didn't tell me was how expensive it was going to be keeping my parents on life support till they were 110.


16 posted on 02/18/2006 7:42:22 AM PST by Casloy
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I think a more reasonable goal is 70, especially since with modern medicine and today's far better understanding of how to maintain good health with a decent diet, good exercise and avoiding overindulgence of alcohol and less people smoking will allow people to live far longer than before.


17 posted on 02/18/2006 7:42:45 AM PST by RayChuang88
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But an increase in the retirement age to 85 would bring costs down to today's levels.

Socialist-speak for WE NEED MORE DEAD AMERICANS.

19 posted on 02/18/2006 7:45:15 AM PST by PGalt
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Who Cares?

I'm working my butt off now, (I'm 28), and saving the maximum in my Roth IRA, and 401K. Any extra is put in taxable accounts. I'll have plenty of money to retire in my 50's, and can live for a decade or two without my Roth or 401K money (If they raise the age when I can pull it out). SO... Who is going to tell me that I can't retire until 85? What, are they going to, not pay me my SS?
22 posted on 02/18/2006 7:52:39 AM PST by IL Republican
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Compare to life expectancy when SS was established in the 30s....


30 posted on 02/18/2006 8:02:22 AM PST by dakine
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In recent months we have witnessed several articles all making some bogus claim about life expectancy to rise to 150 or higher by the year 2050 or 2100.

The only problem with their projections is that they are using the same computer models that the global warming crowd uses to predict that temperatures will rise by 5 - 10 decgrees C in the next 50 - 100 years.

Still waiting for solid, scientific proof of any appreciable temperature rise. Not holding my breath for the life expectancy increase. I am also troubled that the claims of increased life expectancy make so prediction of vastly improved health at age 85 - only increased life expectancy. If I am 85 and in poor health and still expected to work - I think a lot of folks are going to be greatly disappointed - 'cause it ain't happenin'.


32 posted on 02/18/2006 8:10:19 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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Wandered into a Sharper Image store the other day at a local mall. An older gentleman approached me and asked if he could help me, I happened, at the moment, to be standing near a display of upper end massage equipment when I said "Oh I'm just looking ... thanks". He then asked if I had ever tried the massage equipment picking an item up and demonstrating it for me. What a salesman; he went on to tell me about a great foot massager as well ... turns out he's 83 years old and married (to the same women) sixty four years. Long and short of it, I'm sold ... I'm taking my wife back later today to pick out a foot massager ...


34 posted on 02/18/2006 8:14:36 AM PST by BluH2o
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"The age of retirement should be raised to 85 by 2050 because of trends in life expectancy, a US biologist has said."

Well, aren't you special, Mr. Biologist. How about, let's just raise retirement age to 300, then we'll be guaranteed that no one will be around to collect benefits...


37 posted on 02/18/2006 8:19:51 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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Over the next five years, the nation will have to make a choice between supporting the welfare state, and keeping social security afloat

I think most members of the middle class, even middle class liberals, will choose to dump the welfare state rather than their own parents

38 posted on 02/18/2006 8:38:25 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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He also told a science meeting in St Louis that 50-year or 75-year mortgages may not be unusual in the future.

And the difference between a 30 year and a 75 year mortgage is how much a month when you factor in a premium on the interest rate for long-term loan?

On $200,000 loan for 75 years at 6.75% the payment is $1,132. Same loan, 30 years at 6% is $1199-- difference of $67 per month.

39 posted on 02/18/2006 8:38:41 AM PST by RobFromGa (In decline, the Old Media gets more shrill, thrashing about like a dinosaur caught in the tar pits.)
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Oy, now I'm feeling very tired. Thank goodness Monday is a holiday.

Happy President's day folks!


40 posted on 02/18/2006 8:44:41 AM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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There was a time the average American only lived into their 50's. Today, and every day, we are being warned that absolutely everything from second-hand smoke, guns, SUV's, fast food, every chemical known to man and all things pleasurable, are killing us in record numbers.

The only way to save ourselves is to have more regulation, eat organic food and return to the horse and buggy days.

But people are living longer than ever before. And guess what? Most people who were born and lived thru the days of no regulation, are also living longer.


42 posted on 02/18/2006 8:46:02 AM PST by umgud (uncompassionate conservative)
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