Probe finds terrorists in U.S. 'training for war'

Probe finds terrorists in U.S. 'training for war' Neighbors of Muslim encampment fear retaliation if they report to police

The Pakistani terrorist group Jamaat ul Fuqra is using Islamic schools in the United States as training facilities, confirms a joint investigative report by an intelligence think tank and an independent reporter.

A covert visit to an encampment in the Catskill Mountains near Hancock, N.Y., called "Islamberg" found neighboring residents deeply concerned about military-style training taking place there but frustrated by the lack of attention from federal authorities, said the report by the Northeast Intelligence Network, which worked with an Internet blogger, "CP," to publish an interim report.

The neighbors interviewed said they feared retaliation if they were to make a report to law enforcement officials.

"We see children – small children run around over there when they should be in school," one neighbor said. "We hear bursts of gunfire all of the time, and we know that there is military-like training going on there. Those people are armed and dangerous."

The resident said his household gets "nothing but menacing looks from the people who go in and out of the camp, and sometimes they yell at us to mind our own business when we are just driving by."

"We don't even dare to slow down when we drive by," the resident said. "They own this mountain and they know it, and there is nothing we can do about it but move, and we can't even do that. Who wants to buy property next to that?"

Jamaat ul-Fuqra, or "community of the impoverished," was formed by Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani in New York in 1980. Gilani, who refers to himself as "the sixth Sultan Ul Faqr," has stated his objective is to "purify" Islam through violence.

Gilani also is the founder of a village in South Carolina called "Holy Islamville."

The encampment in Hancock, N.Y., is run by a front for Jamaat ul-Fuqra called Muslims of the Americas Inc., which operates a school known as the International Quranic Open University Inc.

The facility is on 70 acres of remote land on the western edge of the Catskill Mountains, about 40 miles southeast of Binghamton, N.Y. A sign at the entrance identifies the place as "Islamberg." The other side of the sign says "International Quranic Open University" and "Muslims of the Americas Inc."

Every one of the neighboring residents interviewed expressed disappointment and additional concern that federal law enforcement is not investigating the activities, the report said.

"These people need to be investigated," a resident said. "They are training for war, either for war here in this country or against our troops. Who in the h--- is allowing this stuff to happen right here in our own backyard, and why?"

Though primarily based in Lahore, Pakistan, Jamaat ul-Fuqra has operational headquarters in the U.S.

The group seeks to counter "excessive Western influence on Islam" through any means necessary, publicly embracing the ideology that violence is a significant part of its quest to purify Islam. The enemies of Islam, the group says, are all non-Muslims and any Muslim who does not follow the tenets of fundamentalist Islam as detailed in the Quran.

Jamaat ul-Fuqra openly recruits through various social service organizations in the U.S., including the prison system. Members live in compounds where they agree to abide by the laws of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, which are considered to be above local, state and federal authority.

According to the report, there appear to be more than two dozen "Jamaats," or private communities, loosely connected and scattered throughout the U.S. with an estimated 5,000 members.

An investigation of the group by the Colorado Attorney General's office in the early 1980s found several of the communities operate covert paramilitary training compounds, including one in a mountainous area near Buena Vista, Colo.

Muslims of the Americas Inc., a tax-exempt organization formed in 1980 by Gilani, has been directly linked by court documents to Jamaat ul-Fuqra. The organization operates communes of primarily black, American-born Muslims throughout the U.S. The investigation confirmed members commonly use aliases and intentional spelling variations of their names and routinely deny the existence of Jamaat ul-Fuqra.

Members have been known to go to Pakistan for paramilitary training, but the investigation found evidence the U.S. encampments offer such training so members don't need to risk traveling abroad amid increased scrutiny following the 9-11 attacks.

The report says Jamaat ul-Fuqra members have "purchased isolated rural properties in North America to live as a community, practice their faith, and insulate themselves from Western culture. The group has established rural encampments that U.S. authorities allege are linked to murder, bombings and other felonies throughout North America."

U.S. authorities have probed the group for charges ranging from links to al-Qaida to laundering and funneling money into Pakistan for terrorist activities. The organization supports various terrorist groups operating in Pakistan and Kashmir, and Gilani himself is linked directly to Hamas and Hezbollah. Throughout the 1980s, JF was responsible for a number of terrorist acts across the United States, including numerous fire-bombings.

Gilani was at one time in Pakistani custody for the abduction of American journalist Daniel Pearl. Intelligence sources have determined Pearl was attempting to meet with Gilani in the days before he disappeared in Karachi. Intelligence sources also suggest a link between Jamaat ul Fuqra and Richard Reid, the infamous "shoe bomber" who attempted to ignite explosives aboard a Paris-to-Miami passenger flight Dec. 22, 2001.

Douglas J. Hagmann, director of the Northeast Intelligence Network and multi-state licensed private investigator, and others conducted their covert field investigation Feb. 8 and 9 at the Hancock encampment connected to the terrorist group.

Primary access to the compound is an unmarked road – labeled on county and state maps as "Moslem Road"

Two structures with capacities of up to 100 each appear to be used for religious training, education and meeting purposes, according to local sources. Investigators found a weapons firing range that is not visible from the road or any other publicly accessible vantage position. It appeared to have been recently used.

Near the eastern perimeter of the property – on a hillside – appears to be a military-style training area, including ropes hung from tree limbs, an obstacle course, wooden fences for scaling and other items and structures one would expect to find in a "boot-camp" setting. The area also appeared to have been used recently.

The report noted the property is near the Cannonsville Reservoir and Watershed Area, one of several water supply sources servicing New York City and adjacent areas.

The investigators noted men appeared to be designated to provide security for the compound, with some posted at guard shacks.

"Although no activity of extreme significance was observed (the presence of armed sentries guarding the perimeter of the compound excluded) during this period of surveillance, it was obvious that measures to insure that the activities taking place at this location were well insulated from public view," the report said.

Investigators interviewed six area residents, who each requested anonymity for the report and found them to be consistent. The report summarized the information:

The encampment has been in operation for at least 20 years and appears to maintain a steady level of occupancy. Each source confirmed the existence of at least one armed guard at the main entrance, especially during "special events" that result in a significant number of visitors by vehicle. The events appear to be meetings or religious services held within the compound.

Nearly every weekend, sound of gunfire can be heard from the camp. According to one neighbor who stated he's a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, some of the weapons obviously are "automatic" and large-caliber. On at least two occasions last summer, area residents heard small explosions.

The occupants won't allow anyone not affiliated with their organization to enter the encampment. All of the residents stated they've never observed a marked law enforcement vehicle enter the compound at any time.

Visitors to the compound are numerous and frequent. All visitors appear to be black males operating late model vehicles, mostly SUVs, and many possess license plates from Michigan, Ohio, South Carolina and Tennessee.

At least once each week, private deliveries of unknown items are made to the camp by unmarked box-style trucks. The trucks, usually at the compound for two to three hours at a time, are operated by black males or men who appear to be of Middle Eastern origin.

Men of Middle Eastern origin appear to be "frequent guests" of the encampment, many in traditional Islamic attire. Some appear to stay at the encampment for three to four days or longer. During the visits, activity and security at the compound is heightened noticeably. The report also says it found that a number of the residents of the compound work for the New York State Thruway, as tollbooth operators in the New York City area or are employed at a nearby center that processes credit card transactions and maintains vital confidential financial records.

The report concludes additional investigation by law enforcement authorities is required.

"The appropriate action must be taken now to insure the safety and security of the United States, or it is certain that we will be forced to deal with the consequences. …"

Re "Slick getting his"..

I hear ya - but realisticly, it won't happen this side of Hell.

Slick and Hellary are still just way too powerful - and along with Sen. Kennedy, they are living proof that some people ARE indeed "above the law".

I was sort of hoping that AIDS or Syphillys would catch up with him, and he would die the kind of death he fully deserves for his treason.

But he seems to even be above the laws of nature....

So far, anyway.

But unless he gets right with Jesus, which does not seem all that likely (and who would believe him if he did claim a "conversion"?), I for one don't envy him one bit.

Did you watch the video of Waco?

So, in your intellectual coolness you can ignore the heat which consumed innocent children.

Before you utter another word about Waco, watch the second video, then report back.

Just to fit in you used the word hate, your specious post reflects your lack of knowledge and points to a disconnect between reality and your uneducated "opinion."

The children died because their parents were mind numbed cult members who had many days to let the children or themselves out. They choose to expose their children and selves to this danger by doing lots of illegal stuff and then in their brilliance storing fuel inside their habitat.

As I said, a cousin of mine was married to someone whose brother died in there and they well before the standoff went and tried to get the fellow out of there.
My cousin and her husband felt bad because it was a cult full of loons...

How evil it was though that over days they would NOT RELEASE the children to safety.

I watched lots of tapes of Waco and don't need to watch more again.
No matter who you see dying tape (including shot officers), the cult, not the government were responsible for that one.

FOX 5 here sent one of their investigative reporters, John Deutzman, to Islamberg today. If there was some trouble to find up there, he would have found it - a city councilman under investigation literally threw stuff at him while he was reporting from public property outside the councilman's house.

Deutzman found nothing up there. There were no armed guards at the guard shack, and he wandered around the property with a hidden camera for about 5-10 minutes before anyone even came out to question him. When they did, one resident, a black Muslim, denied that the compound had anything to do with terrorism - he claimed he moved up there to escape the problems of New York City. Deutzman also met with the "mayor" of Islamberg, who had some "interesting" theories about 9/11 (the usual Bush knew and had the air force stand down nonsense). According to Fox 5, the "mayor" is currently under investigation by the FBI for evading taxes in connection with a business he ran in Brooklyn. The residents didn't deny owning guns, or firing them off during weddings and such. They claimed that the FBI gave awards during some summer events - the FBI refused to confirm or deny it.

Islamberg looked like a craphole. There was a bus on site (as antaresequity somehow pointed out from the satellite photos), but the windows were smashed in. Some of the houses looked half-built and uninhabited.

One neighbor of the compound said that while some weapons training may have been going on before 9/11, the compound has been fairly quiet ever since. Deutzman also interviewed the police chief in nearby Deposit, NY (the compound is in between Deposit and Hancock), who said that he hasn't had much trouble with the folks there.

From the Fox 5 report, this sounds like it is much ado about nothing and that the authorities are aware of the place.

One other thing from the report - the two interviewed Islamberg residents denied any ties to the Jamaat E Islami group.

The school bus did look pretty bad, with smashed-in windows. The two interviewed Islamberg residents didn't explain how that happened (I think Deutzman said he asked).

FOX5 News' website stinks - it doesn't include any version of the report. But I think my description of the report was pretty accurate. Their reporter, John Deutzman seemed to conclude that if anything was happening up there, it was before 9/11 and not now - there were no guards and very few watchful residents. He basically wandered around the property by himself for five or ten minutes without being questioned.

There was a bus on site (as antaresequity somehow pointed out from the satellite photos),

Not difficult to spot and identify...

By the way...its the ruckus and rumble from folks such as us that spurred Fox to investigate...and the effect of our rumbles, and media investigation sends a loud and clear message to the Islamo freaks...Americans are watching and they will not tolerate an enemy within our midst.

The fact that Fox found nothing is inconclusive...just as our suspicions are inconclusive. I would bet that the Islamo Facists took notice and this sort of scrutiny just makes them that much more paranoid and innefective...

This is BATFE's jurisdiction, but they rarely take on cases where the subjects are thought to be likely to shoot back. Sometimes their judgment is off, as at Mt. Carmel near Waco. They much prefer putting gun dealers out of business for paperwork violations.

Where is Jackboot Janet when we need her?

There are not a lot of laws on the books that keep people from training. US authorities have to get them on something else and that could take time.

Automatic gunfire, plus explosions heard in the area. Easy to check the National Firearms Register to see if there are any machine guns, or destructive devices, on the register. If not, send in the BATFE for a little no notice inspection, with backup by the National Guard.

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