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Mo. firefighters refuse to help non-member
modbee ^ | 2-16-06

Posted on 02/16/2006 3:52:53 PM PST by LouAvul

Edited on 02/16/2006 6:43:01 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

MONETT, Mo. (AP) - Rural firefighters stood by and watched a fire destroy a garage and a vehicle because the property owner had not paid membership dues.

Bibaldo Rueda - who was injured battling the flames Monday - offered to pay the dues as the fire blazed away, but the Monett Rural Fire Department does not have a policy for on-the-spot billing, Sheriff's Detective Robert Evenson said.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: firefighters; missouri
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To: LouAvul

Aren't most rural firefighters volunteers? This is bizarre.


21 posted on 02/16/2006 4:02:54 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: digger48

It's for real. We have the same arrangement here in metro Phoenix. They will put out the fire if you are not a subscriber but then send you a bill (for thousands, likely). The idea is to keep adjoining subscriber properties from burning down.


22 posted on 02/16/2006 4:03:23 PM PST by bombthrower
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Can I do that with auto insurance? I mean, if I get in an accident can I call my agent and tell him I changed my mind and I'll buy that policy now. Or life insurance? Hello, Allstate, after further consideration I've decided to take out a policy on my wife. How old is she? Well, she was 65 when she passed away yesterday.


23 posted on 02/16/2006 4:03:30 PM PST by Krankor (T)
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To: LouAvul

If I remember correctly, most fire services were private in the early 1800s. It was quite a long time until they became public.

The shields that you find in antique shops that say something like "Boston Street Fire Department" were attached to houses after the dues were paid. If the company saw the shield they would fight the fire, if no shield, the house would burn to the ground while they stood watching.

Long history of pay to play fire service in the US.


24 posted on 02/16/2006 4:04:48 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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To: LouAvul
Rueda used a garden hose and buckets to fight the flames while firefighters stood by on the road, watching in case the blaze spread to neighboring properties owned by members.

This is shameful. The man said he didn't even know about the program; you can believe many of the residents didn't either, til now.

25 posted on 02/16/2006 4:05:17 PM PST by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Yeah. I'll stand over here with you Sarg. What you said.


26 posted on 02/16/2006 4:05:21 PM PST by Pompah
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To: LouAvul

Gee, you mean you don't get what you don't pay for?


27 posted on 02/16/2006 4:06:30 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: LouAvul
Hard ti imagine that they just stood and watched as the guy lost his car, his garage and recieved injuries.

I see a lawsuit coming, just out of anger, not sanity.

28 posted on 02/16/2006 4:06:32 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Things turn out best, for who make the best of the way things turn out.--- Jack Buck (RIP))
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To: edpc

"I hope the owner didn't take the same approach with his homeowner's insurance."

Insurance company: Hello
Homeowner: Hi this is Bob. My house is on fire, I would like to buy insurance now.


29 posted on 02/16/2006 4:06:46 PM PST by ol painless (ol' painless is out of the bag)
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To: television is just wrong
...draining the funds dry...

In WA and Seattle when the voters put through an initiative to cut car tabs, that's what all the politicians whined about "we'll have to cut ambulance and paramedic and other services."

This, even though state law strictly forbids car tab fees being used for anything but roadway infrastructure.
30 posted on 02/16/2006 4:07:12 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
"You know, they could have put the fire out when the guy offered to pay and then billed him for it. Officious little pricks."

He wasn't offering to pay them to put out the fire. He was offering to pay his dues which, I'm sure, were much less than the cost of putting out the fire.

31 posted on 02/16/2006 4:08:45 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: television is just wrong

How that grifters lounge doing? And did they ever decide on the drug testing for public officers?


32 posted on 02/16/2006 4:08:58 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: RichInOC
"I'm guessing that taking the guy's money and figuring out the accounting later"

If the guy won't pay his dues, I doubt he would pay the much larger bill for putting out the fire.

33 posted on 02/16/2006 4:10:33 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: digger48

It's how it used to be and what it should be returned to. Private fire companies, private police forces, no government intervention and unwelcome taxation. If you don't want the service, you won't have money removed from your paycheck to pay for it.


34 posted on 02/16/2006 4:11:28 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: digger48
I thought tax money paid the tab.

Where I grew up the town taxes paid for the fire department. If you lived outside of the town limits, your annual fee was $2.00. If you did not pay the annual fee, our fire department would not respond to your call. If you were too cheap to pay the $2.00, you did not deserve fire protection.

35 posted on 02/16/2006 4:11:31 PM PST by JoeGar
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To: sgtbono2002
Any SOB that would stand by and watch a persons home or garage burn down and do nothing is unfit to call themselves a Firefighter

I call them firefighters. They are working for a private organization and are not existing off government money. I wish my own area had one of these. A private police force as well. Would probably be run more efficiently as well

36 posted on 02/16/2006 4:13:37 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: digger48
I thought tax money paid the tab. I've never heard of a membership program to fund firefighters.

Dunno about there but our EMS/VFD is funded by government grants, county tax, and donations.

37 posted on 02/16/2006 4:13:59 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: LouAvul
Simple solution to this problem. Establish a policy where on-the-spot membership dues will be four times normal with a lien on the property. "Sign right here.".

That way they save the houses and property, but don't make it beneficial to not pay for protection before-hand.
38 posted on 02/16/2006 4:15:10 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: digger48

Yes it is real!

We live in a rural area and pay $35.00 or $40.00 a year. If we don't pay it and they have to put a fire out on our property it will cost us something like $1000.00 an hour for their service.


39 posted on 02/16/2006 4:15:37 PM PST by stlnative
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To: LouAvul
You didn't print the last sentence:

Rueda said no one told him about the dues policy when he moved in 1 1/2 years ago.

Pretty important piece of the puzzle.

Nice town!

40 posted on 02/16/2006 4:15:44 PM PST by Fruitbat
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