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First Chimpanzee Fossils Cause Problems for Evolution
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Posted on 02/15/2006 11:47:51 AM PST by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9
According to the evolutionary paradigm, humans and chimpanzees share a common ancestor.
OR
According to the intelligent design paradigm, humans and chimpanzees share a common Creator.
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:02:56 PM PST
by
proudpapa
(of three.)
To: truthfinder9
Surprisingly, the first chimpanzee fossils were discovered not in West or Central Africa, but in East Africa, near Lake Baringo, Kenya. These fossils, consisting of three teeth, dated to 500,000 years in age--meaning that chimpanzees coexisted alongside hominids. The Rift Valley provided no geographical rift for separate evolutionary histories, and therefore foils a key prediction of the human evolutionary paradigm.Chimps and humans diverged 6 million years ago, not 500,000 years ago. Nothing in evolution requires that two groups that have already speciated can't live together. The author is apparently thinking of allopatry, the thesis that the initial divergence of two speciated populations requires genetic isolation. But by 500,000 years ago, chimps and humans were are already genetically isolated. .
I'm thinking of rating creationist articles in 'Hams', with 5 Hams being an average stupid creationist article, 0 Hams being not at all stupid (of course, no zero Ham creationist article has ever been observed), and 10 Hams being dumber than a Liberty University brick. This is about 8 Hams.
To: HEY4QDEMS
Insane Clone Posse Not only was that a really bad, but funny joke I instantly thought of the Poser Posse on those T-Mobile commercials. That cracks me up every time.
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:05:31 PM PST
by
IllumiNaughtyByNature
(There is an APB out for my tag-line. If you find it, FReepmail me.)
To: truthfinder9
These fossils, consisting of three teeth, dated to 500,000 years in age--meaning that chimpanzees coexisted alongside hominids. I'm totally confused. Didn't the article say the theory was that they lived at the same time in different places? But now that they have found the teeth in the wrong place, it means they lived at the same time in the same place? But how does just finding teeth mean the chimp lived in the same place? Couldn't a human have brought the chimp to the place since they lived at the same time? Am I missing what the theory is?
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:06:19 PM PST
by
TXBubba
( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
To: Right Wing Professor
We all know that as an atheist you have a special agenda on these threads. But it is entertaining to read your rants! LOL
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:07:27 PM PST
by
mlc9852
To: SengirV
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 500,000 years a lot closer to today than the "common ancestor" of 5 million years ago? Exactly. Humans and chimpanzees were fully separate species by 500,000 years ago, and it would raise no problem to find their fossils side-by-side.
Sometimes, reading scientific arguments by creationists is like listening to the worst contestants on American Idol trying to sing.
To: Right Wing Professor
Surprisingly, the first chimpanzee fossils were discovered not in West or Central Africa, but in East Africa, near Lake Baringo, Kenya.Maybe the chimp was on vacation. You know: get a little sunshine, do a little fishing...
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:07:39 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
(Peace Begins in the Womb)
To: Right Wing Professor
I'm thinking of rating creationist articles in 'Hams', with 5 Hams being an average stupid creationist article, 0 Hams being not at all stupid (of course, no zero Ham creationist article has ever been observed), and 10 Hams being dumber than a Liberty University brick. This is about 8 Hams.
Fe-Fi-Fo-Fum. I smell me an atheist.
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:08:21 PM PST
by
ExcursionGuy84
("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
To: mlc9852
"These fossils, consisting of three teeth" I must be missing something. What other chimp fossils were found?
Hey, that's 2 1/2 more fossils than they usually create an entire species from.
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:10:21 PM PST
by
GLDNGUN
To: truthfinder9; Ichneumon; PatrickHenry; Coyoteman
paleoanthropologists were left wondering how humans and chimps could have evolved, based on where the chimpanzee fossils were found. This is it? Add a comment by a researcher (that no doubt supports evolution) that they want to do more study, and suddently EVOLUTION IS IN TROUBLE. OH MY, THE EVOLUTION SKY IS FALLING, WHAT SHALL WE EVER DO!??
This is the lamest anti-evolution article *ever* on FR.
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:11:20 PM PST
by
narby
(Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
To: Right Wing Professor
Chimps and humans diverged 6 million years ago, not 500,000 years ago. Nothing in evolution requires that two groups that have already speciated can't live together. The article had me going for a minute, but you hit the nail on the head.
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:11:47 PM PST
by
Potowmack
("The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax." - Albert Einstein)
To: truthfinder9
bump for future reference.
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:13:10 PM PST
by
edcoil
(Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
To: truthfinder9
To: narby
This is the lamest anti-evolution article *ever* on FR. I doubt it ...
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:14:38 PM PST
by
dread78645
(Intelligent Design. It causes people to misspeak)
To: GLDNGUN
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:14:56 PM PST
by
mlc9852
To: Right Wing Professor
Nothing in evolution requires that two groups that have already speciated can't live together. No, that's just against GOD'S LAW!!! Oh...wait...you meant...
To: Skooz
;-)
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:15:26 PM PST
by
WestVirginiaRebel
(Islamofascists don't need cartoons. They're already caricatures.)
To: Physicist
No, that's just against GOD'S LAW!!! Oh...wait...you meant...:-)
Offer not valid in Massachusetts, or on mountains in Wyoming.
To: mlc9852
We all know that as an atheist you have a special agenda on these threads. RWP can defend himself. But as for me, I'd just like the truth, and evolution appears to be it. I oppose the spread of ignorance, which anti-evolution is.
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posted on
02/15/2006 12:16:46 PM PST
by
narby
(Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
To: narby
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02/15/2006 12:18:19 PM PST
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mlc9852
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