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Saddam general: WMDs in Syria
WDN ^ | February 15, 2006

Posted on 02/15/2006 7:17:59 AM PST by Kaslin

Another former confidant of ex-dictator makes claim, also links Iraq to al-Qaida

A former general and friend of Saddam Hussein who defected but maintains close contact with Iraq claims the regime supported al-Qaida with intelligence, finances and munitions and believes weapons of mass destruction are hidden in Syria.

Ali Ibrahim al-Tikriti, southern regional commander for Saddam Hussein's Fedayeen militia in the late 1980s, spoke with Ryan Mauro of WorldThreats.com.

Known as the "Butcher of Basra," al-Tikriti commanded units that dealt with chemical and biological weapons. He defected shortly before the Gulf War in 1991.

Last month, Saddam Hussein's No. 2 Air Force officer, Georges Sada, told the New York Sun Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were moved to Syria six weeks before the war started. Sada claimed two Iraqi Airways Boeing jets converted to cargo planes moved the weapons in a total of 56 flights. They attracted little attention, he said, because they were thought to be civilian flights providing relief from Iraq to Syria, which had suffered a flood after a dam collapse in 2002.

Discussing Saddam's support of terrorism, al-Tikriti said the dictator's regime sponsored Palestinian groups with logistical and material support.

For a time, support for al-Qaida was limited, the former general said, mainly because al-Qaida's aim was to create an Islamic empire while Saddam wanted a secular Arab nationalist empire.

"They only really came to terms in the mid '90s due to the fact that both knew they shared the same short-term enemy," the general said. "Once they came to terms on this, Saddam provided al-Qaida with intelligence support and whatever money or munitions they could provide."

Al-Tikriti said Saddam "had very long-standing contacts in the black market as well as with Moscow and would provide whatever munitions he could through these contacts."

The secular Baathists and radical Islamists certainly are able to put aside their differences to cooperate against the U.S., he insisted.

"If you look in Iraq today, you are witnessing Arab nationalist terrorist organizations and Islamist terrorist organizations working together to fight the United States."

Al-Tikriti dismissed the commonly heard claim that the U.S. helped bring Saddam to power, calling it "absolutely ludicrous."

The Baathist revolution, he said, was backed by the Soviet Union because of the shared socialist ideology.

"I was there helping with the revolution and worked on two occasions with Soviet KGB officials to help train us, much like the United States did with the Taliban during the Soviet campaign in Afghanistan," he said. "The United States never directly gave us any WMDs but rather ingredients. They were not mixed and these 'ingredients' could have been easily used for commercial use but were rather used to build low life chemical weapons."

Al-Tikriti says he knows Saddam's weapons are in Syria because of contingency plans established as far back as the late 1980s, in the event either Damascus or Baghdad were taken over.

"Not to mention, I have discussed this in-depth with various contacts of mine who have confirmed what I already knew," he said.

Saddam, after lying for so many years, knew the U.S. eventually would come for the weapons, he said, and wanted to maintain legitimacy with pan-Arab nationalists.

Also, he had "wanted since he took power to embarrass the West, and this was the perfect opportunity to do so," al-Tikriti said.

"After Saddam denied he had such weapons, why would he use them or leave them readily available to be found?" he said. "That would only legitimize President Bush, who he has a personal grudge against."

What we are witnessing now, he said, "is many who opposed the war to begin with are rallying around Saddam saying we overthrew a sovereign leader based on a lie about WMD. This is exactly what Saddam wanted and predicted."

Al-Tikriti said he turned against the Baath Party after his wife stood up to him and questioned his brutal tactics.

"This really made me think, because no one has ever even considered to question the tactics of myself or any others and lived to tell about it," he said. "This courageous move made me think deep and hard."

Al-Tikriti said he still maintains good sources inside and outside of Iraq.

"Some of Saddam's key scientists are personal friends of mine, as well as other key leaders in the former Iraqi military," he said. "I have helped draw information since my defecting to the United States government voluntarily and with the permission of these contacts. The only difference between many of them and I, is that I had the opportunity to defect and they didn't."



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; sada; saddam; syria; wmd
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1 posted on 02/15/2006 7:18:00 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: dropandgimme20

I guess you missed Colin Powell at the UN in late 2002 showing satellite photos of convoys of trucks leaving known Iraq WMD sites and headed toward the Syrian border.


3 posted on 02/15/2006 7:21:51 AM PST by Peach (Hillary ran over a cop and didn't even stop.)
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To: dropandgimme20

The source is new, but we have "known" this for some time, just no way to prove it without invading Syria.


4 posted on 02/15/2006 7:23:19 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Kaslin

Who cares? Vice President Cheney's friend was injured by birdshot. This is a National Security issue. Cheney must resign and Halliburton must be broken up.

~MSM, Nanci Pelosee, Side of Dayvid Gregory's neck.


5 posted on 02/15/2006 7:23:25 AM PST by jw777
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To: trebb

bump


7 posted on 02/15/2006 7:26:49 AM PST by Wuli
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To: trebb

It wont do any good if we anounce that we are going to invade Syria


8 posted on 02/15/2006 7:28:38 AM PST by Kaslin ("Hindsight alone is not wisdom, and second-guessing is not a strategy" President G.W. Bush)
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To: jw777

That shows you where the priorities lie on the left. They are not to be trusted for our security


9 posted on 02/15/2006 7:31:12 AM PST by Kaslin ("Hindsight alone is not wisdom, and second-guessing is not a strategy" President G.W. Bush)
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To: dropandgimme20
"my credibility meter doesn't seem to be registering at all."

I'll say.

dropandgimme20
Since Jan 30, 2006

10 posted on 02/15/2006 7:31:44 AM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: icwhatudo

Guess he doesn't know you have to have the VRWC/FR decoder ring for the credibility meter to work.


11 posted on 02/15/2006 7:34:22 AM PST by ladtx ("It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." -- -- General Douglas MacArthur)
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To: dropandgimme20
You use quotation marks very aptly. We "knew" quite a lot back then.

So, he gassed all those Kurds, and embarked on a well-known program to acquire more and varied WMD, had nuclear material stockpiled and catalogued by Hans Blix and his jokers, and you think it is all a put-on? Even though he kept breaking the U.N. resolutions and kept shooting at our folks in the no-fly zones, then had a chance to avoid invasion by coming clean, he all of a sudden decided to actually destroy his stuff and become compliant with U.N. demand, but wouldn't allow us to verify it?

Surely you see that it takes a much bigger leap of faith to take your position than to believe that he actually had (many times documented) WMD and would have taken steps to protect them by moving them out like he did his Air Force (such as it was) by sending it to Iran during Gulf War I?

12 posted on 02/15/2006 7:35:55 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: dropandgimme20

Been brainwashed into believing that something has to appear in the New York Times or the Washington Post in order for it be true?


13 posted on 02/15/2006 7:36:10 AM PST by jpl ("We don't negotiate with terrorists, we put them out of business." - Scott McClellan)
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To: Peach

"I guess you missed Colin Powell at the UN in late 2002 showing satellite photos of convoys of trucks leaving known Iraq WMD sites and headed toward the Syrian border."

That was recalled baby milk heading back to the syrian factories. Didn't you get the public notice?


14 posted on 02/15/2006 7:36:47 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when")
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To: Kaslin

I'd like to see them beg to see the transcripts of the interview of the former Iraqi's that say that the WMD's we thought were in IRAQ were moved to Syria. REally. WTF? I want to physically abuse David Gregory.


15 posted on 02/15/2006 7:41:01 AM PST by jw777
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
I'm positive that this will be all over the news tonight.
16 posted on 02/15/2006 7:41:36 AM PST by mothball
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To: Kaslin

yup credibility meter either isn't working or something about this stinks.

Idea: just ask syria if they got any WMDs from iraq!

this is part of a left wing conspiracy to embarass the US right wing


17 posted on 02/15/2006 7:43:54 AM PST by jbp1 (insert witty tagline here)
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To: ladtx
Guess he doesn't know you have to have the VRWC/FR decoder ring for the credibility meter to work.

The batteries died on my decoder ring. Shoulda used Energizers. :)

18 posted on 02/15/2006 7:45:04 AM PST by Diver Dave (Proud to be an American... and half Danish :))
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To: dropandgimme20
Hmm… my credibility meter doesn't seem to be registering at all.

I would hope that this claim gets the same level of scrutiny that the fake TANG memos got, otherwise we do come off as being more receptive to things that we want to hear.

I have personally suspected that the WMD were moved to Syria before the shooting started, and based on my extensive contacts within Saddam's inner circle and the Syrian military (irony here, folks) it must be true.

19 posted on 02/15/2006 7:48:23 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: mothball

I'm positive that this will be all over the news tonight.

Exactly. A pre-war 1991 invasion iraqi, broke general, needing some ego-stroking from media attention, with supposed contacts in syria claiming whatever. How'sa about he provide us with the targeting of the facilities of where they are in israel? Otherwise, he needs to open a mercedes dealership in dubai and disappear.


20 posted on 02/15/2006 7:56:23 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when")
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