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NYT: CHENEY FACES GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION IF MAN DIES
quoting NYT? ^ | 2/14/06 | Drudge

Posted on 02/14/2006 6:45:51 PM PST by clawrence3

NYT: CHENEY FACES GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION IF MAN DIES... In Texas, Carlos Valdez, the district attorney in Kleberg County, said a fatality would immediately spur a new report from the local sheriff and, most likely, a grand jury investigation... MORE...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: accidentalshooting; cheney; davidgregorysucks; deadeyedick; deeplysaddenedhesok; drudge; dulikesdick; harrywhittington; mediamalice; newyorkslimes; nytdaydreams; quailgate; recyclednews; slimes; vultures
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To: pollyannaish

Sorry....no cable here in the back woods...
But, Cheney just said he was sorry. To a point.
I think, thats what folks were waiting to hear.
He owed that that to his country, NOT just his party...and not 4 days later.
It is very good, that he offered himself up.
I have more respect than I ever had.


461 posted on 02/15/2006 1:12:24 PM PST by Nothometoday
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To: Nothometoday
He owed that that to his country, NOT just his party...and not 4 days later.

Dick Cheney doesn't owe shit for an apology to anybody over this matter except to Whittington and his family. He can have a personal life you know.

462 posted on 02/15/2006 1:42:33 PM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (If it wasn't for marriage, I would not have this screenname.)
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To: TC Rider

More 'projection' reporting by the lamestream media.


463 posted on 02/15/2006 1:49:11 PM PST by CT
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To: balch3

I know .. we all need to be writing to these people so they know we think they're going off track.

IT'S STILL GOVT OF - BY - AND FOR THE PEOPLE.

The "people" need to get off the stick and get more involved.


464 posted on 02/15/2006 2:23:51 PM PST by CyberAnt (Democrat Leadership: No program - no ideas - no clue.)
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To: clawrence3

What if Sadaam Nukes Manhattan tomorrow... will the NYT be reporting that...

Oh thats right he can't cause George W. Bush Did something about it....

I see we only print the hypothesis when it meets the liberal bias ..


465 posted on 02/15/2006 2:46:28 PM PST by tomnbeverly (Psalm 127; Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.)
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To: Nothometoday
Oh, man. We are just destined to disagree today. ; ). I like you, and you are trying really hard, but you keep saying things that push my buttons! LOL. so here we go again.

Forgiveness is only something that can be asked for by the person who did it, just as it can only be granted by the person who was harmed. It is a concept that has been really, really twisted.

Let me give you a Bill Clinton example. When Bill Clinton, uh, hung out with Monica, he did not owe the country an apology. His wife and daughter, yes. Monica, yes. Monica's family, maybe depending on circumstances. But once he went out in front of the country and lied to us directly, that changed the entire complexion because suddenly he had harmed every one of us by breaking trust with us as well. (I am not addressing the whole lying under oath/impeachment thing, only conscious lying/cheating part.)

The people of this country were in no way harmed by the Vice President accidentally shooting his friend. Not in the slightest. Therefore, the Vice President only owes an apology to the man and his family. Ok, and maybe Scott McClellen for being left out there to face the wolves. But other than that, he has no responsibility. We are curious of course. And it is newsworthy, but we have no moral right to an apology from him, so he is free to handle it as he sees fit.

NOW, I respect him for taking responsibility for the accident. He did so squarely and without flinching. He is obviously extremely upset by this. Shaken is how Hume described it and I believe he is correct.

But he owed the rest of us nothing. An explanation is appreciated, but it is not owed. And it is most certainly not owed before the real life, personal, morally required responsibilities are taken care of.

Finally, I respect your point and am glad you posted. But we still disagree.

I hope you have a wonderful evening. I'm sure we will eventually meet up on a thread were we agree on many things. But alas, this is not that thread! ; ).

466 posted on 02/15/2006 4:52:18 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: avital2

In all fairness if a district attorney says Cheney could face an investigation, the press does have to report it. It is not the NYT doing the speculating.


467 posted on 02/15/2006 9:54:22 PM PST by propertius
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To: P-Marlowe; oceanview

"Actually if he dies, then Cheney will most likely be charged with negligent homicide. Anytime you accidentally kill someone and it is the result of your negligence, then you are guilty of negligent homicide."

Only if you 'are' negligent. Officially the local sheriff stated that Cheney was not negligent.


468 posted on 02/16/2006 12:23:18 AM PST by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (LIBS = Lewd Insane Babbling Scum)
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To: clawrence3

If true, our legal system is far worse than I thought.


469 posted on 02/16/2006 6:33:32 AM PST by sarasota
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To: clawrence3
Wow! If I wasn't reading a story about the possibility of a human being dying, I'd swear the NYT just experienced premature ejaculation all over the top of their own masthead.
470 posted on 02/16/2006 6:51:34 AM PST by .cnI redruM (a right is something that exists simultaneously among people and imposes no obligation on another.)
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To: clawrence3


It was unfortunate that Dick Cheney had to go and shoot a lawyer. Really.
He gets a lot of criticism for waiting several hours to tell the public about it.
I wonder how it would be if he were a Democrat, would he have spoken up any quicker?

This items looks at that possibility.

http://www.staggeron.org/universe.html#dick_dem


471 posted on 02/16/2006 9:24:37 AM PST by rockbobster
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To: rockbobster

Actually, why is it any of the public's business to have a play-by-play of Mr. Cheney's life? I have no burning desire to know EVERY action of the President or Vice-President.

The local sheriff was notified ASAP...end of story.

(BTW, the clymers in the WH Press Corp can go _____ themselves)


472 posted on 02/16/2006 2:39:07 PM PST by madison10
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To: clawrence3

dick cheney spreads so much horror,he would be better characterized with a name like 'Duck Chainey'


473 posted on 02/16/2006 4:40:10 PM PST by blabla (All -isms have only one purpose)
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To: Fatigued Mother



474 posted on 02/17/2006 4:42:31 AM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: blabla

In this forum, we give extra points for coherence.

You don't get any.


475 posted on 02/17/2006 4:48:27 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: clawrence3

This is getting really stupid, really fast. That fellow looks like he's on the mend. He should stay in the hospital until he's ready, instead getting out and mugging for cameras for his pal Cheney's benefit, but the NYT is once again full of poop just like a lot of other big media outlets.


476 posted on 02/17/2006 3:38:32 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: clawrence3

Ah, the NYT wishes!

He's out and about and just fine!


477 posted on 02/17/2006 5:55:55 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: devolve

Who wouldn't? = )


478 posted on 02/18/2006 12:33:52 PM PST by Fatigued Mother
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