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Former Worker: Insurance Co. Pays Claims When Pigs Fly
Channel 7 ABC News, Denver ^ | February 13, 2006 | Newsroom

Posted on 02/14/2006 10:59:15 AM PST by forsnax5

We're all supposed to have insurance and at one time we will all likely need to file a claim. Ever wonder how the companies decide what to pay and when to pay?

7NEWS looked into a company's practice that the state's insurance commissioner calls "inappropriate and unprofessional conduct."

The company, American Family Insurance, said it's done nothing wrong.

But a Boulder jury said there was something wrong and handed down a $3 million verdict against American Family Insurance.

It was an expensive message for a practice the jury called "willful and wanton" when refusing to pay a claim.

The Boulder jury said American Family Insurance must pay a University of Colorado professor $3 million.

Nick Peressini was severely injured in a car wreck in 2002 and out of work for more than a year.

"Essentially, after the accident, I never went back to work ... I just needed the money to pay my bills and get my life going again," said Peressini.

American Family Insurance refused to pay Peressini's insurance claim. He was forced to sue -- opening the door to a series of surprising discoveries.

A former American Family Insurance employee described the company culture promoted by a supervisor.

"It was pink pig ... She said it was meant to be that she would approve something when pink pigs fly," said the former employee.

That testimony helped convince the jury about the impact and influence the toy pig had on decision-making inside American Family Insurance.

Peressini's attorney, Sam Livingston, told jurors the pig symbolized an insurance company ignoring state law and indiscriminately denying claims.

"They were happy about and would celebrate, in effect, when they would deny claims," said Livingston. "They'd push the button and make it flap its wings."

American Family declined to talk on camera but on a written statement American Family Insurance said, "Any sort of office humor regarding the outcome of a claim review would have been inappropriate. But to portray the toy as anything other than a desktop knickknack is an extreme distortion of how our company conducts business."

"I think the story here is a corporate culture that got to the point where this level of cynicism was tolerated," said Livingston.

A business plan from 2003 and videotaped depositions raise other questions. They show that American Family Insurance intended to reduce payouts on claims based on competition and not the facts -- all in the name of running a tighter ship.

"Running a tighter ship means you will achieve a goal based on what the competition is achieving, versus what the needs of your clients are?" Livingston asked an American Family claims representative, Phil Scott, during a taped deposition.

"Well, yeah. You gotta be profitable. You gotta try to make money," Scott said in the videotaped deposition.

Making money is not the issue. However, the company's blueprint for reducing cost became a lightning rod in the case. The business plan urged employees to reduce payouts by 28 percent over four years.

"You can't handle claims with an agenda, you have to handle claims on the merits," said Joe Conway, an insurance expert.

Conway has four decades of experience in the insurance industry. During the trial he served as an expert, testifying against American Family Insurance.

"They just set themselves up as the imperial insurance company and this is what we are going to do," Conway said.

American Family Insurance disputes the accusations saying, "Our business plan identified procedures to help avoid the overpayment of claims. Our business philosophy is clear. We pay what we owe."

"From what I understand, I think this is an inappropriate and unprofessional practice," said Colorado's Insurance Commissioner David Rivera.

Rivera was disturbed by the pig, the business plan, and the push to cut costs.

"It raises a red flag for us. And if we determine there is a pervasive culture, whether it's at American Family or any other insurance company, we will take action."

The company has appealed the jury's verdict and denied any wrongdoing although desktop toys, internal documents and employee statements have clearly raised questions about the actions behind the windows and walls of American Family Insurance's Englewood offices.

In the deposition video, it is clear that Scott is not sorry for how Peressini's claim was handled.

Livingston: "For each one of those months, April through October, you violated the regulation, correct?"

Scott: "Yes." Livingston: "And that wasn't fair to Mr. Peressini, was it?"

Scott: "No. "

Livingston: "So you think she's lying under oath about what she did, or do you think maybe you ought to accept what she said under oath and apologize to this guy?"

Scott: "I'm not going to apologize." Livingston: "Why not?"

Scott: "'Cause I'm not going to."

Livingston: "Why not?"

Scott: "'Cause I'm not going to."

Livingston: "You don't think you've done anything wrong?"

Scott: "I don't think we've done anything wrong."

Livingston: "You've got some woman..."

Scott: "I don't think we've done anything wrong."

Livingston: "And you're saying that's the way we want to handle claims in the future?"

Scott: "I have no problem with the way this file was handled."

Livingston: "So I guess it's going to take a jury to make you sorry for this, isn't it?"

Scott: "I'd love to hear what a jury has to say."

American Family Insurance has removed the pink pig with wings from its offices. The company is currently considering its options to appeal the jury's verdict. As of Friday, Perissini had not received any of the $3 million the jury had awarded.


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This sort of stuff really hacks me off. I don't have an American Family Insurance policy, but I'd be looking for another carrier if I did...
1 posted on 02/14/2006 10:59:17 AM PST by forsnax5
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To: forsnax5
American Family Insurance has removed the pink pig with wings from its offices.

It's still there.....you just can't see it with the dark, starlit sky superimposed over it. Very appropriate for a "fly-by-night" organization.

2 posted on 02/14/2006 11:05:30 AM PST by edpc
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To: forsnax5

American Family insures a lot of Wisconsin drivers and has a good reputation here. They pay and do it promptly.

The Colorado claims office must have been an aberration and overlooked by the head office.


3 posted on 02/14/2006 11:07:12 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: forsnax5
This sort of stuff really hacks me off. I don't have an American Family Insurance policy, but I'd be looking for another carrier if I did...

Do you really think any of them are different or do you think you'd be jumping from the frying pan into the fire?
4 posted on 02/14/2006 11:09:17 AM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: forsnax5

The article never gets around to saying what the company's reasons were for denying the claim. They surely didn't deny it on paper by saying well we're over our claims paying limit for this month...


5 posted on 02/14/2006 11:09:17 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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To: RicocheT

Well, the HQ is in Wisconsin. I haven't heard any complaints about them either. Progressive and State Farm are another story around here.


6 posted on 02/14/2006 11:09:46 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: forsnax5
This will do far more than $3,000,000 in damage to their reputation. The longer they fight the verdict with appeals, the longer it will stay in the news and the more damage it will do. If they were smart, they'd settle out of court for something over a million just to make it go away. Oh yeah, if they're not paying claims that they should, then they need to start doing so ASAP. Too bad I'm not a class action lawyer -- this one looks like it might be ripe for the picking.
7 posted on 02/14/2006 11:10:22 AM PST by piytar
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To: forsnax5

American Family Insurance, eh? They're the ones doing all the radio spots in my area. Sounds like I'll stick with my company, then.

I hate insurance companies, generally, but we have to have insurance. They sure don't like to pay what's due, though.


8 posted on 02/14/2006 11:10:23 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

ping


9 posted on 02/14/2006 11:12:57 AM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: forsnax5

I'm ready for regulation. It's a frigging theft by deception today when you consider health insurance companies (the one or two that are left) have finally gotten around to copying the fire and casualty people - deny everything and hope the consumer falls asleep and pays.


10 posted on 02/14/2006 11:15:48 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: forsnax5
Look Out
Here come the hoard of attorneys.
Bend over American Family and forget everything you know about that PIG.
If you have any AF stock dump it NOW! ! !
11 posted on 02/14/2006 11:16:11 AM PST by DeaconRed (IF . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: piytar

Not really. State Farm, at least in Texas, has literally hundreds of reported cases against them for statutory violations out of failure to pay claims, yet they are still going strong. The fact is most consumers don't know anything about how insurance companies work and don't find out until they are on the bottom side of a claim problem.


12 posted on 02/14/2006 11:16:54 AM PST by 1L
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To: Filo
Do you really think any of them are different... ?

Actually, I'd assume that they're all different to a degree. Corporate cultures can get screwed up in any type of industry, but they can't *all* be bad apples.

13 posted on 02/14/2006 11:17:45 AM PST by forsnax5 (The greatest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.)
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To: forsnax5

I had the same type of experience with Grange Insurance when one of their insured totalled one of our cars.

Once I sent them a packet with 40 digital pictures and notorized statements from three wittnesses along with a copy of the police report they decided to pay.

Always keep a disposable camera or two in the glove box. It can make your life very easy when dealing with these slimeballs.


14 posted on 02/14/2006 11:21:30 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: forsnax5
Reminds me of those Capital One credit card commercials.

NO!

15 posted on 02/14/2006 11:25:19 AM PST by colorado tanker (We need more "chicken-bleep Democrats" in the Senate!)
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To: kinghorse

Insurance is intensely regulated. Every state has an Insurance Commission and state laws on doing business in the state. If you have a complaint, the first step is to contact your state's Insurance Commission.


16 posted on 02/14/2006 11:25:27 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: forsnax5

I can really sympathise with this guy. I live in South Florida and hope that I never have to go through this after a hurricane. I would not have the patience that he does to let them drag it out for 3 years.


17 posted on 02/14/2006 11:31:18 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: July 4th
Progressive and State Farm are another story around here.

Gasp. Communist insurance company not looking out for the little guy? Big shock.

18 posted on 02/14/2006 11:32:15 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: forsnax5

Just make sure your new comapny isn't Cigna. You could have a diasability claim invalidated because your case worker neglects to get a report from a doctor whose number, address, and fax he's had for a month before it was needed.

Of course, when you complain about that, they'll tell you "Well, you're entitled to a review of your claim", which they claim will take 45 days, but really takes 62, and in the end, they'll forget about the information they previously had and find something else to use to deny your claim.

They'll then inform you that you are entitled to another review of your claim. Another 45 (60+ day) process. And, you're entitled to a copy of your file.

When you receive the file and find a piece of paper, with a date on it, and the case worker's handwriting (which is anote on the date of the office visit for which they have no report because they neglected to send the doc the paperwork, and with the doctor's contact information), and question how a claim can be denied for a lack of information when the case worker HAD THE INFORMATION ON FILE, the person performing the review and appeal will tell you: I don't klnow.

When you ask "Well, if you know the information was on file and that all you had to do was to send a fax or make a phone call, why didn't you do that during the first review process?". The answer you get: That's not my job.

"Is it your job to ensure that Cigna had all releavnt information before reviewing the claim and made every good faith effort to get such information before hand?" Answer: that's not my job. But we did find another 10 reasons to invalidate your claim today. My boss was impressed.

As soon as I can find a lawyer worth his salt (meaning he won't take more than 25%) I'm going to sue the hell out of Cigna.


19 posted on 02/14/2006 11:38:45 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: FOG724
Ping RE: "I had the same type of experience with Grange Insurance when one of their insured totalled one of our cars."
20 posted on 02/14/2006 11:42:17 AM PST by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (...Other People's Money))
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