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Wife should talk with husband about fear of guns
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 2/13/06 | Joyce Brothers

Posted on 02/13/2006 8:50:39 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

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To: jalisco555
I don't really understand the hostile reaction to this fairly innocuous advice.

You're a good heart. And the type of person that is a great example for the rest of us to follow. When there is the potential to win over a nice lady who's apprehensive about guns, should we mock and ridicule her? or should we just show her how reasonable and safe gun owners can be?

41 posted on 02/13/2006 9:10:36 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: kiriath_jearim

Dr. Joyce Brothers should do something about the intense hoplophobia with which she is obviously afflicted.


42 posted on 02/13/2006 9:11:18 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: HairOfTheDog

"But both of my roommates, and everyone else I've ever taken shooting, was much more comfortable with them after a nice, organized, safe day of target shooting."

Ding! Ding! Ding!

All the rhetoric regarding firearms is essentially useless, and convinced nobody. Preaching to the choir or preaching to a group of people who hate firearms irrationally is a worthless activity.

Instead, doing what you describe is useful and helps the cause. I do the same, and have a 10m air rifle range in my basement for the first lessons. Everyone has fun with that, and it's often the first time people have ever touched a gun of any kind.

I've introduced dozens of people to shooting and to firearms safety in that range. Some have gone on to obtain their own firearms.

One gun-owner influencing others has far more effect than 1000 gun owners saying "Out of my cold, dead hands." Many 2nd Amendment advocates continually do their cause a disservice.


43 posted on 02/13/2006 9:11:35 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: kiriath_jearim
My very anti-gun ex sister-in-law bemoaned the fact that a couple of my little nieces/nephews joined us for target practice and my (at the time) 9-year-old nephew got to handle, load, unload, load, shoot (and then clean!) a little 22 revolver. My SIL wanted to know, What was the point of exposing children to deadly firearms?

My answer to her: Knowledge is power. If our nephew found himself among a group of boys at a friend's home where some dumb kid was disobeying his dad and goofing around with a gun, WHICH KID do you think will be the first to say: "Put that thing down. Have you seen what one of those things can do to a watermelon or a can?"

It pretty well shut that SIL up.

44 posted on 02/13/2006 9:11:54 AM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Dear Wife:

Do you own sharp knives? Do you drive a car? Do you have large rocks in your yard? Baseball bat? Golf clubs? How about rope? Electrical cords? Do you and your husband have hands? Feet? Do you have a bathtub? Pillows?

Each one of these things is a commonly used instrument for one person to kill another. It is the danger in the attitude of the other person which should concern you. If that person is intent on killing, the tool won't matter much. If he is not, then handing him a loaded gun should cause you very little, if any, concern.

45 posted on 02/13/2006 9:12:31 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: kiriath_jearim
you still feel terrified after taking these steps, I suggest that you surrender your weapon.

The woman is an idiot. In the world of crime there are prey and predators. It is not good to be the prey.

46 posted on 02/13/2006 9:12:33 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud of it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Anyway, my husband brought one home after I reluctantly agreed

Then STFU and be glad he doesn't trade you in for a hunting dog.

47 posted on 02/13/2006 9:13:02 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Guaranteed to cure fear of guns and swimmin pools


48 posted on 02/13/2006 9:13:02 AM PST by stainlessbanner (^W^)
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To: Dead Corpse
Dr. Brothers article seems to play into some of that hype, hence the negative reaction by some on this thread.

Dr. Brothers recommended she talk to her husband about it and give shooting a try. The negative reaction on this thread is just bully name calling toward someone they perceive as weak.

49 posted on 02/13/2006 9:13:05 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: kiriath_jearim

That's funny.

My daughter feels somewhat the same way about her kitchen stove.


50 posted on 02/13/2006 9:13:28 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

D.K. get a grip on reality. Inanimate objects are not, in of themselves, either safe or dangerous. Dr. Brothers imbues human emotion into a firearm; it's "creepy" to have one around. What would one say about referring to a "lonely" blender, an "angry" paperweight, or a "happy" pencil sharpener? Such a loon would be put on the next short bus to the Haldol Hotel. D.K., if you're this breathless over a hunk of iron, you probably should not be in possession of a firearm or any power tool.


51 posted on 02/13/2006 9:13:45 AM PST by CharlesThe Hammer
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To: Shanda
Isn't She considered something of a joke anyway?

I don't know if She is "Considered" something of a joke, but if this is the level of sage advice "Dr." Brothers is giving out, she is going to end up the butt of a lot of punch lines.

Never take gun advice from soneone who soils themselves whenever they hear the word.
52 posted on 02/13/2006 9:14:47 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: dead

I bake my pizza in the shape of a gun...is that wierd?


53 posted on 02/13/2006 9:15:19 AM PST by Feiny ("Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back." Ann Coulter)
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To: kiriath_jearim
DEAR D.K.: I would say that it is quite normal and even smart to be afraid of any dangerous weapon that could kill you or a member of your family.

Oh my...how ever will blissninny soccermom get her brood back and forth from Chuck e. Cheese's without her eeeeevil SUV?

Hopolophobes suck.

54 posted on 02/13/2006 9:15:30 AM PST by AngryJawa ("But honey, I *need* a Main Battle Rifle...[NRA])
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To: kiriath_jearim

I had to use my gun just last night. I'm a 44 year old female with a 19 month old toddler and a 14 year old son.

A drunk Mexican missed his turn, and ended up in the pasture next door to us. The suspicious thing was that he had to traverse the whole length of our driveway to get over in the pasture.

We heard a noise but didn't see anything. A few minutes later a tall skinny white guy in camo's and short shivering Mexican knowcked on my door wanting to borrow a chain.

I told them to hold on a minute, went and got the 38 and came back to the door, pulld the curtain back from the window so they could see the gun and asked them if I could call 911 for them and no I did not have a chain.


They backed off the porch real fast but did ask me to call 911.

A few minutes later the police came, I went outside and it really was a drunk Mexican who did miss a turn, throught the driveway was the turn and we he saw my husband's truck he had enough sense to avert into the pasture. Or course he couldn't get out of the pasture so he went knocking on doors looking for help.

The tall white guy with him was the first person who offered to help him pull it out (for $100.00) but white guy didn't have a chain.

Hence the knock on my door.

A gun doesn't provoke fear if you are on the right side of it and not afraid to use it.

It should provoke fear for those on the other side. :-)


55 posted on 02/13/2006 9:17:51 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: MineralMan; the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Nova442; flada; RogueIsland; longtermmemmory; ...
All the rhetoric regarding firearms is essentially useless, and convinced nobody. Preaching to the choir or preaching to a group of people who hate firearms irrationally is a worthless activity.

~snip~

I've introduced dozens of people to shooting and to firearms safety in that range. Some have gone on to obtain their own firearms.

One gun-owner influencing others has far more effect than 1000 gun owners saying "Out of my cold, dead hands." Many 2nd Amendment advocates continually do their cause a disservice.

Thank you MineralMan. Pinging a few others who I think also need your advice.

56 posted on 02/13/2006 9:18:40 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: MineralMan
All the rhetoric regarding firearms is essentially useless, and convinced nobody. Preaching to the choir or preaching to a group of people who hate firearms irrationally is a worthless activity.

You are absolutely incorrect.

We need to make our voice herad, and be loud and clear about the 2nd.

Whether we change the minds of the left out there is moot.

Our vocalness needs to continue so that our government hears us, and those we vote for.

57 posted on 02/13/2006 9:22:47 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: HairOfTheDog; the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Nova442; flada; RogueIsland; longtermmemmory

ping to 57


58 posted on 02/13/2006 9:23:40 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: jalisco555
If you still feel terrified after taking these steps, I suggest that you surrender your weapon.

Yep sounds like "good" advice to me.

Let your fears dictate your and your husbands actions. After all, if he's not afraid but you are, your fears trump his ability to make decisions for the family.

He's obviously not capable of making rational decisions, he brought a (gasp) gun into YOUR home.
59 posted on 02/13/2006 9:24:40 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Memo To Joyce Brothers:
Typical Idiot!
Click the Pic

60 posted on 02/13/2006 9:25:49 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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