Revolution on Wheels ( Fed Up )

Barrons ^ | FEBRUARY 13, 2006 | KAREN HUBE

[JRios1968]

In all, California suffered a 693,730 net decline in its population so far this decade, despite a burgeoning immigrant population.

More than made up for with all the ILLEGAL immigrants from Mexico and al Qaeda.

[george76]

[Jeff Chandler]

Producers move out, and freeloaders move in.

The scary part is when they use their electoral clout to take money out of low tax states to fund their welfare states. It will happen eventually.

[MinorityRepublican]

Al-Qaeda?

[JRios1968]

I can read just as well as you, and I have seen the reports of Middle Eastern men crossing the border with the Mexicans...

[george76]

In South Carolina, back-and-forth movers even have a name: halfbacks.

"It's for people who were originally up North, moved to Florida and then ended up around here,"...

[ikka]

PA is growing steadily as people from NJ look at their property tax bills and even though PA is higher than normal, compared to NJ it is a bargain.

[george76]

Is this accurate ?

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Northerners don't have to move all the way to Florida to save taxes.

For instance, many people who leave Manhattan for the suburbs are skipping over New York and New Jersey communities and settling for longer commutes from Connecticut or Pennsylvania.

Both states not only have lower housing costs and property taxes, but far lower income-tax rates, as well.

Pennsylvania has a flat rate of 3.07%, and Connecticut's top rate is 5%, while New Jersey's is 8.97% and New York's 7.7%.

[Vince Ferrer]

I find that map a bit suspicious. Few people would want to leave Colorado for Wyoming just for tax reasons.

[pediatricsman]

I couldn't agree more. Here in Arizona the damn lefty californians are coming here and shifting the electoral scene dramatically. I'm looking at going back to New Hampshire... NO state sales tax and NO state income tax.

[Banjoguy]

The Barrons article seems to be timely and right on the money.

We are approaching 70 and on fixed retirement income. The tax situation in various states, next to climate, has been the single biggest influence in our decision, up to this point to remain in Florida. We would like to move west to be nearer family. Texas has the only tax structure we can accept. Taos and a few other places would be great but we refuse to pay taxes on our retirement income and food. And so it goes with most other states, some of whose tax policies are confiscatory.

There are 5 states with no income tax most have climates or political orientations that are unacceptable to us.

It seems to be the height of folly regarding state government fiscal policy, to not realize the demographic changes which are taking place in the population. The boomers are retiring. Most will have disposable income as do most of the older folks around here. I haven't looked at the figures but I believe I heard that retirees represent the wealthiest demographic.

A wise state administration would do well to adjust the income tax structure to attract the aging among us. The state would be better off in the long run.

[Banjoguy]

You've hit on the two of the reasons we won't relocate to Arizona. One other is that housing and food prices are being 'Californicated.'

[Banjoguy]

Barrons will not allow entry beyond the advert at the entry to the website....sucks.

[BlueHeaven]

yup I did it. Mercer County, NJ(38yrs) to Central PA- Mifflin County.
For taxes alone. car ins. = 1/3 of NJ
property taxes 1/5!
no rat race.
cleaner
safer
libs are few
I don't have to wait a year for my gun permits.
and soon SWANN for Gov.
There is no comparison.

[stand4somethin]

An added aspect of the nightmare... consider the racial/economic makeup of this shift (speaking of California only). Who do you think comprised the net 690,000 + who left California. For those of you in Rio Linda that means even after the thousands of illegals that poured across the border there was still a decrease of 693,730 people in the state. Yes they were people who could AFFORD to move. Is it starting to come together for ya? California is going in the tank!

[Khurkris]

I left California in May 2004. I loved living in Sunset Beach/ Huntington Beach, but taxes and state expenses were just too much to deal with.
I liked life at the beach, but the overall cost just became too high.

[JRios1968]

That's why I'm looking for the way out ASAP.

[george76]

This access just worked.

http://online.barrons.com/article/SB113962615857771564.html?mod=9_0031_b_this_weeks_magazine_main

[george76]